United Thread 2014/15

[Prestwich_Blue]

Cheers pb, i seem to remember something about that yeah.

So anyone got any reasonable scenarios how this could occur? :-D

I think the key figure is £65m before Interest, Tax, Depreciation & Amortisation. It was £130m in 2014 so they'd have to drop a lot to halve that but they've probably lost £50m from not being in the CL alone. That will be mitigated by the increase in sponsorship income but it's not clear how much that will be impacted by not being in the CL. Their amortisation will be significantly higher but that's not included unfortunately. Wages will also probably be a lot higher and that is included.

They'd have to have a couple of years out of the CL while still paying high wages and see many of their corporate supporters abandon them for it to happen unfortunately.

 

[maccadon]

They should never have fallen out in the first place. Moyes did an unbelievably bad job. I wasn't sure about Van Gaal, but I was confident he would get them top 4. They are not a balanced team, but just have too much quality to finish outside the top 4.

People keep talking about Top 4 but if Everton or Spurs win the Europa League, it's Top 3 only who will qualify.

now that would be funny.

now imagine he gets sack n ally mccoist gets sack n gets the job.i never thought you could die from laughing but i think that would do it.

 

[stony]

So De Gea's contract runs out in summer 2015?

wouldn't be surprised he goes back to Spain soon

It would be funny as fuck if he did a Tevez. I'd love to see another 'Welcome to Manchester' billboard.

 

[BigJoe#1]

So De Gea's contract runs out in summer 2015?

wouldn't be surprised he goes back to Spain soon

It would be funny as fuck if he did a Tevez. I'd love to see another 'Welcome to Manchester' billboard.

^^would be more likely and even funnier if it was DeMaria^^

Unlikely to be GeGea

 

[YaYa]

People keep talking about Top 4 but if Everton or Spurs win the Europa League, it's Top 3 only who will qualify.

now that would be funny.

now imagine he gets sack n ally mccoist gets sack n gets the job.i never thought you could die from laughing but i think that would do it.

That's not right unfortunately..

UEFA confirm FIVE English clubs could qualify for next season's Champions League if Tottenham or Everton win Europa League

Europa League winners will gain entry to Champions League
If Tottenham or Everton win the Europa League, the Premier League will have five representatives in Europe's elite competition
It was suggested that the top three and Europa League winner would qualify - making four - but UEFA have confirmed this will not be the case
Tottenham have missed out when finishing in top four as Chelsea won the European Cup
Europa League final is in Warsaw


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[TCIB]

Ah well the idea still made me smile, thanks for the info pb :-)

 

[mat]

Doesn't FFP apply to the rags, then?

Their case will be scrutinised impartially by David Gill and will be found with no charges to answer.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Their money men i bet have said "you must ensure cl footy or we are fucked, the sums are looking bad".

As I've said before, their bond documents stipulate that they have to achieve a minimum level of earnings otherwise the bondholders can demand immediate repayment and their revolving credit (i.e. overdraft) facility can be withdrawn. There is a get-out clause though, as they are allowed to miss the target if they fail to qualify for the CL in two non-consecutive seasons.

The implication is therefore that if they fail to qualify in two or more consecutive seasons and fail to hit the earnings target, they will be in breach of their financial covenants. That alone will be making them nervous.

If they don't get CL this season is there a chance that they will be forced into a Leeds United type fire sale next Summer?
The Glazers aren't flush with cash with their retail business struggling. This is real money, required upfront, it's not like buying players
over say 5 years. I would imagine any refinancing would be at crippling rates which they would want to minimise to prevent total debts
spiralling out of control. Am I being overly optimistic, ha,ha?

 

[City1974]

So United going to spend big again next summer.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-plan-150m-transfer-4750115

The likes of Strootman, Bale, Reus, Hummels

Very odd that them having to pay for their own players that have come up through their own youth system ?

The class of 92, what happened to the classes of 1993,1994,1995,1996,1997 --> 2014 ?

I wonder how many first team Utd players will be English by the kick off of next season and how many will be players brought up through their youth system ?

Man Utd ruining English football, never surely ?

I wonder what Utds' next 2 annual accounts will look like ?

 

[stony]

So United going to spend big again next summer.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-plan-150m-transfer-4750115

The likes of Strootman, Bale, Reus, Hummels

Very odd that them having to pay for their own players that have come up through their own youth system ?

The class of 92, what happened to the classes of 1993,1994,1995,1996,1997 --> 2014 ?

I wonder how many first team Utd players will be English by the kick off of next season and how many will be players brought up through their youth system ?

Man Utd ruining English football, never surely ?

I wonder what Utds' next 2 annual accounts will look like ?

The rhetoric from the media will be 'they had to do to compete with the oil clubs'
The rags spending is met with giddy excitement by the same sycophantic cockroaches who were outraged by ours.