United Thread 2015/16

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laserblue said:
This post could have been written by the revisionist propaganda department at the swamp. He's a typical rag who has at best a patchy knowledge of his own club's history coupled with a selective memory.

For a start he can't even spell Eddie Colman's name correctly and Tommy Taylor was 26 so hardly "a young boy".

The whole point is that the way the Munich survivors were treated WAS unique. The club had deliberately underinsured the players as a cost saving exercise for a start. What do the maximum wage, contract terms and austerity got to do with anything? Jackie Blanchflower and Johnny Berry were two badly injured survivors among those evicted from club houses and Berry was fired by letter. Only captain Roger Byrne's family was exempted from eviction. On the 10th anniversary of the disaster Mark Jones's widow and son received complimentary tickets for a game. His son said that was the only time the club had contacted them since 1958 and disdained the petty and insulting offer of a couple of tickets 10 years after the event.

In 1998, after the club combined the 40th anniversary Munich benefit match for the families with Cantona's farewell match and then paid him £90,000 in 'expenses' out of the benefit fund, Ray Wood's wife said "We just want the club to give us some dignity Offer some recognition to those who died, who gave their lives for Manchester United and gave birth to a legend. What the plc is doing is immoral, leaving us just as rubbish, simple vermin....Suddenly, the game has become the Eric Cantona roadshow while the survivors are like dancing bears at a circus. I saw those terrible scenes in hospital after the crash. I stayed at Ray's bedside for eight weeks and I was there when Duncan Edwards died....The airline flew us out to Munich and gave us daily expenses. Even my local priest offered help - but there was nothing from United."

At a dinner in 1998 Bobby Charlton was giving a speech in which he said not a day goes by that he doesn't think of his friends who died at Munich when Harry Gregg shouted down the table "Then why the fuck haven't you done anything for them all these years?" (At that time Charlton had been a director at United for 14 years).

There are plenty of other stories about the gobshite way the club treated other survivors including Albert Scanlon and Kenny Morgans.

Your vile club has cynically and relentlessly milked this tragedy for naked commercial gain for 58 years. Even for the 50th anniversary derby it was agreed that both teams and their mascots would turn out in plain 1958 style shirts with no sponsor's name. What did the rags do? They sent their mascots out in full AIG kit. They also plastered an AIG logo on the official 50th anniversary banner.

And you think all this is somehow normal or excusable.
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Take a bow son and if there is any Blue on redcaf (and i'm fooked if i know why) then post this on there on your way out.
Brilliant work Laserblue.
 
 
shallyman said:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/30/manchester-city-human-rights-accusations

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...uman-rights-opposition-to-New-York-plans.html

http://mideastsoccer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/human-rights-violations-raise-spectre.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
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Yawn. Not one has Sheikh Mansour being personally linked to anything and one of your sources (no 3) is a blog that's been written by a 14 year old. Plus, your club is owned by wealthy and influential citizens of a country that routinely murders, tortures and abducts people.
 
shallyman said:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/30/manchester-city-human-rights-accusations

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...uman-rights-opposition-to-New-York-plans.html

http://mideastsoccer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/human-rights-violations-raise-spectre.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
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I'd like to post links to the type of atrocities and acts of genocide suffered by Palestinians thanks to Zionist supporters like the Glasers over the past 70+ years.

Sadly, the Western Press [and their allies] are not allowed to publish such truths.

Conversely, you could say that the UAE and other Gulf states are propped up by the CIA and sanctioned by Western democracies including the UK.

Your argument is therefore either one of grand hypocrisy or confrontation with the establishment that supports the Glasers. Take your pick. Neither wins. Must try harder.
 
shallyman said:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/30/manchester-city-human-rights-accusations

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...uman-rights-opposition-to-New-York-plans.html

http://mideastsoccer.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/human-rights-violations-raise-spectre.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
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Abu Dhabi's human rights most certainly could be better. What that's got to do with Manchester City is nothing.

You see, and here's the important bit so don't blink, Manchester City are not owned by a country. We are not owned by a government. We are owned by a company, ADUG, set up at the behest of an individual, Sheikh Mansour, who happens to hold roles within Abu Dhabi's government. He's not a dictator, he's not the leader of his country, he will have some say on political matters, but he will have very little influence, or ability, to enact any real change in the region. Trying to smear Manchester City because the country our owner is from has a poor record on certain issues is illogical and offensive. If one of the Glazers became a senator, or congressman, would Manchester United become responsible for Guantanamo Bay?
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Yes. Yes I am.
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Good luck with that, although you might be waiting a long time. It seems that people on here like digging in the dirt, but don't like it when you point out that their shovels have blood on them. They like it even less when you highlight the futility of this point scoring contest, but hey we all get bored at work.
 
Shallyman appears to be the sort of person the Internet was made for - tries to wriggle his way out of things with (very basic) language and when actually challenged is armed with links from various websites, regardless of the quality of the source.

The bits about United's history he doesn't like, or more likely, doesn't know about should be left in past as it was X amount of years ago and the current issues are 'petty'.

As numerous people have posted, United's behaviour over the years has been awful but he'd rather not discuss that, rather dismiss it or attempt to justify - that's the difference between City/United fans
 
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