United Thread - 2023/24

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De Gea was the farce that went on for too long. We all saw that in the fa cup final. In this modern era, you cannot have a keeper that is rooted to the goal line. You have to play on the edge of the D.

Onana can play out from the back. Ten Hag has managed him before. You will see an immediate change in formation, because, like City and Liverpool, TH can move the entire defence to the half way line, and then overload the opposition. Which is what he tried to implement at the start of last season, but after losing to Brighton and Brentford, had to abandon.

In essence, he was forced to play an entire season with the handbrake on, because the goalie doesn't come out of his box and cannot play out from the back. This also invites more pressure, because your team has to sit back and keep their shape. Sometimes making De Gea look good, because he was pulling off worldie saves, but if your team are defending from the half way line, he doesn't have to make any saves at all.

There will be an immediate improvement. Pep demonstrated this when he dropped Joe Hart. Klopp when he signed Alisson. If you know that your keeper is going to come out and sweep up any balls over the top, then you can play further up the pitch and dominate the opposition in their half. If they can't get out, they can't hurt you.

Agree with all of this, although the improvement in terms of points, isn't a guarantee. There will be teething problems and the new style won't suit some of the team.
 
In 2001, Pep was banned for 4 months for having tested positive (twice) for the banned substance, Nandrolone. He blamed his personal doctor for mixing up his 'vitamin' supplements. You'd think that after such a horrendous mistake, that he would cut ties with this dodgy doctor, but guess who he made the club doctor while he was manager of Barcelona. The very same Dr Ramon Segura who had mistakenly given him Frank De Boer & Edgar Davids nandrolone.

You won't find anything in the media about this either.
Maybe because it was 22 years ago and he was cleared.
 
De Gea was the farce that went on for too long. We all saw that in the fa cup final. In this modern era, you cannot have a keeper that is rooted to the goal line. You have to play on the edge of the D.

Onana can play out from the back. Ten Hag has managed him before. You will see an immediate change in formation, because, like City and Liverpool, TH can move the entire defence to the half way line, and then overload the opposition. Which is what he tried to implement at the start of last season, but after losing to Brighton and Brentford, had to abandon.

In essence, he was forced to play an entire season with the handbrake on, because the goalie doesn't come out of his box and cannot play out from the back. This also invites more pressure, because your team has to sit back and keep their shape. Sometimes making De Gea look good, because he was pulling off worldie saves, but if your team are defending from the half way line, he doesn't have to make any saves at all.

There will be an immediate improvement. Pep demonstrated this when he dropped Joe Hart. Klopp when he signed Alisson. If you know that your keeper is going to come out and sweep up any balls over the top, then you can play further up the pitch and dominate the opposition in their half. If they can't get out, they can't hurt you.
"Had to play with the handbrake on" surely having manged him previously Ten Bob should have been all over his availability on a free transfer (Inter say thanks for the £60 mil) last year and De Gea dropped straightaway as he introduced his philosophy.

There's not one shred of evidence the man has any forward thinking vision, merely copying Pep doesn,t count.

Same shit, different day, only thing in question this season is how soon St Benathus day comes around.
 
This is what I've read about the Giggs case. Not sure why I bothered!

He and his GF were in a hotel after a night out. They get back to the room and start arguing about her chatting up men, him chatting up women. A pretty toxic relationship, but no surprise looking back over Gigg's illustrious history of bad relationship decisions. Anyhow, the argument results in her leaving the hotel. She originally said that he threw her out of the room naked. But CCTV did not back up that statement, and she was seen leaving the hotel fully clothed and with all her stuff.

After some time in the room alone, Giggs had a concern that she would go back to his house and start taking his stuff, so he got a taxi home. They had both been drinking.

On pulling up to the drive of his house, his noticed his GF's sisters car was on the driveway, and his dog was in the boot of the car and the back seats were filled with stuff taken from the house. He retrieved the dog and went into the house where his GF and Sister were ransacking the place. He put his mobile phone down at the front door and went to confront them.

Another argument ensued, this time with both sisters. At some point as the sister went out to load up the car, he noticed that his mobile phone was missing. He discovered that his GF had taken it. He made a grab for it, and the phone fell to the floor, they both bent down to pick the phone up and clashed heads. The sister came back into the house and the GF said, "He's just headbutted me." Giggs then said to the sister, "I'll headbutt you next if you don't Fuck off out of my house..." They rang the police and he was arrested.

The end.

He's an imbecile & a philanderer but not a woman beater.
What are you basing this conspicuously particularised account upon?
 
Agree with all of this, although the improvement in terms of points, isn't a guarantee. There will be teething problems and the new style won't suit some of the team.

Both full backs are better higher up the pitch than defending (Dalot and Shaw) Martinez is almost a CDM and has played there for Ajax. Varane to mop up with his pace. I think they are geared up for this. And if he plays Mount and Fernandes as two number 8's with Casemiro holding, it is essentially matching your midfield of last season with De Bruyne and Gundowan as 8's and Rodri holding.
 
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