United Thread | 2024/25

M23 Citizen said:
Very true. United’s greatest era has utterly skewed their perception of what their club is, as a fanbase, as well.

They’ve moaned for the last decade that what they are seeing isn’t good enough. Yet, in every one of those seasons they’ve finished above their average finishing position for their club throughout history and have been winning trophies more regularly than they did before the Ferguson era:
Their all-time average league position is 9th/10th (9.93). In the last 11 years (since Ferguson left) their average league position is 4th.
In the 84 years of their history before Ferguson went there, they had 70 trophyless seasons; that’s 83.3% of the 84 pre-Fergie years that were trophyless. In the last 11 years they’ve had 7 trophyless seasons, which is only 63.6%.

These ‘unacceptable’ shit seasons are above their average or above their pre-Ferguson levels. It’s nowhere near shit for them.

They need to get real. 1990-2013 was their extreme; 1923-38 was the other end of their extreme… their reality is somewhere in the middle and they’ve actually been exceeding their average and that reality since Ferguson left.

However, that Ferguson era is skewing their view of what their club is and - as you say - seems to be a millstone around their neck that’s weighing them down.

I fucking hope we don’t get like them when we have our downturn, which will happen, and is another thing they need to realise as a set of fans. The only club where the reality ‘nothing lasts forever’ doesn’t apply to is Real Madrid. United fans think they are the Real Madrid of England, but they aren’t as there isn’t a Real Madrid of England. ‘Nothing lasts forever’ applies to every single club in England. United fans can’t grasp this, they simply don’t understand it. I really hope City fans all understand this reality so when our downturn happens, we take it with resilience and realism.

Liverpool fans are the same as United’s n’all. They think they’re always the club that won four European Cups in eight seasons. Dismissing the fact that they had 85 years of history before they ever happened where they weren’t that club.
1977-1984 is just their extreme; their other extreme is that they spent eight straight seasons in the Second Division. And their reality is somewhere in the middle.

Liverpool fans also think they’re the Real Madrid of England, and also don’t understand there isn’t Real Madrid of England and don’t understand the reality of English football.
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To sum up, their fans are clueless wankers
 
r.soleofsalford said:
I lived in Irlan o’th Height at the time of that game. Rags lived next door, at the end of the match me and the old fella went round and stood outside their front window, not saying a word but both grinning like Cheshire Cats.they ended up drawing the curtains.

8-)
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You r.sole

;-)
 
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