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I've seen something saying Parler has been hacked, thereby giving the authorities access to all their data including users on there and their real identities. Hence why they were so quick to set up the no-fly lists.

Gonna be fun in 10 days time.
 
meltonblue said:
I think the argument is more around what’s within that code of conduct, who gets to decides that and how is it consistently enforced. It’s a bigger conversation than just in the context of what has happened to Trump.

I really think all of the Twitter conversation is for a different thread though.
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This maybe ?

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Rascal said:
You need to detach Trump and focus on the power that corporations have wielded to ban Trump.
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But it can’t be detached because it’s only Trump that has been banned and apparently we both agree it was the correct decision.
Rascal said:
I have said repeatedly that this is about corporate power flexing their muscles and that is dangerous because it can lead to Oligarchy.
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But it isn’t and hasn’t. He repeatedly broke the code of conduct. You or I would have been banned years ago.
Rascal said:
That it is Trump, is by the by, the question should be what if the corporations who have now flexed their muscles decide they don't approve of the actions of the next President, or the one after that. That power in the hands of a select few people can be devastating for democracy.
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So we are back to your unrealistic hypotheticals again. But yes, in that instance with Biden or whoever takes over the reigns from him (GoP or Dem), I’d have an issue. I wouldn’t have an issue if they used it against the CoC and incited riots and tried to undermine democracy though.
kaz7 said:
@Ric as trump is about to be impeached please can we have his thread back , this one is far to general, thanks
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Too fucking right. It appears it’s not even about Trump (this “general” stuff). It (the chat) probably Belongs in a 6th form common room or students Union.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've seen something saying Parler has been hacked, thereby giving the authorities access to all their data including users on there and their real identities. Hence why they were so quick to set up the no-fly lists.

Gonna be fun in 10 days time.
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Yeah I’ve seen that as well. They aren’t happy.
 
meltonblue said:
I think the argument is more around what’s within that code of conduct, who gets to decides that and how is it consistently enforced. It’s a bigger conversation than just in the context of what has happened to Trump.

I really think all of the Twitter conversation is for a different thread though.
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I have no issue with that argument per se but absolutely do where it concerns Trump as his history of posting would prompt any sane adult to ban him based on his posts and twitter’s published CoC.
 
SWP's back said:
Yeah I’ve seen that as well. They aren’t happy.
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I post nothing on social media that could potentially get me in trouble with the law. My Twitter account has my real name on it, and I don't really use Facebook.

The fact that so many Trump supporters and Right-wing are currently sh*tting themselves because Parlour account details have been hacked says an awful lot about the kind of support trump has been coveting for the last 5 years.
 
SWP's back said:
I have no issue with that argument per se but absolutely do where it concerns Trump as his history of posting would prompt any sane adult to ban him based on his posts and twitter’s published CoC.
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Yeah I agree, like I said I don’t think it’s for this thread
 
SWP's back said:
About time. Hawley and Cruz must be bollocking their strategists for talking them into that stunt last week.

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Hawley and Cruz were like 2 drunk guys at the roulette table wanting to go all in on black, and the croupier gives them 7 chances to go home and come back when they're sober, and they still go all in on black - and LOSE.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've seen something saying Parler has been hacked, thereby giving the authorities access to all their data including users on there and their real identities. Hence why they were so quick to set up the no-fly lists.

Gonna be fun in 10 days time.
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More likely the Feds are just trawling mobile and wireless signal logs from phones in the Capitol, and then getting the cell operators to give them their billing address for the numbers/id’s.

as most of the knuckle draggers kept their phones on, and videoed/streamed whilst they insurrected, they are screwed.

its as though they skipped Surveillance 101.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I've seen something saying Parler has been hacked, thereby giving the authorities access to all their data including users on there and their real identities. Hence why they were so quick to set up the no-fly lists.

Gonna be fun in 10 days time.
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Its not even the authorities, a load of normal IT savvy people got all the data. User info, but also every "tweet" and video ever uploaded and all the meta data.

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Here's a longer explanation from the reddit thread -

Here is a description of what went down according to someone with far greater technical knowledge than me:

"so a group of developers latched onto the Press Release that Twilio put out at midnight last night. In that Press Release, Twilio accidentally revealed which services Parler was using. Turns out it was all of the security authentications that were used to register a user. This allowed anyone to create a user, and not have to verify an email address, and immediately have a logged-on account.

Well, because of that access, it gave them access to the behind the login box API that is used to deliver content -- ALL CONTENT (parleys, video, images, user profiles, user information, etc) --. But what it also did was revealed which USERS had "Administration" rights, "Moderation" rights.

Well, then what happened, those user accounts that had Administration rights to the entire platform... The hackers, internet warriors, call it what you will, was able to use the forgot password link to change the password. Why? Because Twilio was no longer authenticating emails. This meant, they'd get directly to the reset password screen of that Administration user.

This group of Internet Warriors then used that account, to create a handful of other ADMINISTRATION accounts, and then created a script that ended up creating MILLIONS of fake administration accounts.

Now that they had a way of creating admin accounts without interruption, they created a Docker Image (basically a virtual machine) called a Warrior, that anyone could download, and when fired up, would immediately start collecting data off of Parlre, in a coordinated fashion.

Consider it like SETI (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) that people used to load up as screen savers when their computers were not being used. Same concept, crowdsourcing.

All of this data, the videos, the images, the posts, the metadata (including the GEO location of all images and videos, and the connections to the accounts that posted it, has been (since midnight) being uploaded to various cloud drives and storage arrays for the purposes of Archiving this information, for later retrieval by law enforcement, by the public, by Open Source Intelligence communities.

And the kicker.. is this: all of this information was thought to be secure and private by individuals who were making the posts. A significant number of those individuals went through the process of being a "Verified Citizen" on Parler. What does that mean?

It means they uploaded a picture of the front and back of their REAL State Driver's License........ Let that sink in for a second.

I am positive the FBI has been actively soaking in this information along with the Internet Warriors, but this is how they are going to officially track down.

And it's how the FBI, DHS, and FAA have been able to immediately and exhaustively create no-fly lists. Every verified attendee of the Capitol riot where they can find a real name has been placed on No-Fly Lists.

It might seem like a small geeky glitch or hack.. but in the age of Information warfare... this is the silver bullet for the people who used Parler as a place to organize their efforts.

Also, a lot of posts were deleted by Parler members after the riots on the 6th. Turned out... Parler didn't actually delete anything.. just set a bit as deleted.

Guess what has access to all "deleted" content?

Administrator accounts."
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Long story short, everything anyone put on parler is now known and probably soon to be public, along with who they are in real life & where they were when they sent it from.
 
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Representatives will proceed with legislation to impeach Mr Trump because he poses an "imminent threat" to the country's democracy.

Mrs Pelosi said the House will first try to get Mr Trump's vice president Mike Pence and his cabinet to oust him using the 25th amendment with legislation on Monday.

But as this will almost certainly be blocked by Republicans, a full House vote will be convened on Tuesday to pave way for the impeachment process.
 
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