mancity2012_eamo
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Honestly don’t get the indignation.
You’d rather what happened last time than what normally happens.
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You’d rather what happened last time than what normally happens.
Is he a Nazi or not?
What, the BLM riots?
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We’ll see.
He certainly talks like one and has expressed admiration for things the Third Reich “accomplished.”
Who knows, maybe the new uniform is a navy suit, white shirt and painfully long red silk tie?!
I'll take that as sarcasm..
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Oh dear. Someone’s grasping.
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I wouldn’t.
We will see.
“Donald Trump has faced allegations of making positive remarks about Adolf Hitler, particularly through statements from his former chief of staff, John Kelly. Kelly claimed Trump expressed admiration for Hitler, saying he “did some good things” and desired “the kind of generals that Hitler had,” referring to their loyalty and obedience.”
Hmmm, who to believe…John Kelly or Donald Trump???
I know whom I believe…and he doesn’t paint his face brown or wear an overtly long red silk tie.
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the ones calling him that and warning of the dangers Trump brings are those that worked for him previously including his chief of staff.
Are you allowed to have the opinion that he probably isn't of the Nazi ideology but is a dictator in waiting? I've never really got the idea that we have to compare every authoritarian figure with Adolf Hitler, like he was the only man in history who had a lust for overturning democratic systems.
Trump doesn't believe in democratic systems, because he's never conceded losing one. We've all heard the tape to Raffensperger. That's a dictator talking, it's just some people are more comfortable with it than others. For now
Currently in the UK, the kings prerogative and thus pardons are exercised by the PM who advises the sovereign to grant a pardon. The sovereign then obeys!Donald Trump's "green light" can be found in The Supreme Law and historical precedence, it has nothing to do with Joe Biden.
The origins of the pardon power in the United States Constitution can be found in English history, known previously as the “prerogative of mercy.” It first appeared during the reign of King Ine of Wessex in the seventh century.
Although abuses of the pardon power increased over time, leading to limitations on it, the pardon power persisted through the American colonial period. Alexander Hamilton introduced the concept of a pardon power at the Constitutional Convention.
The framers of the Constitution deliberately separated the judicial function of government from the pardon power, therefore obviating concern from English jurist William Blackstone that the power of judging and pardoning should not be delegated to the same person or entity.
The History of the Pardon Power
Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution states that the President has the authority to “grant Reprieves...www.whitehousehistory.org
George Washington pardoned two men who were sentenced to be hanged for their part in the Whiskey Rebellion - a genuine insurrection.
Thomas Jefferson granted amnesty to anyone convicted of a crime under the Alien and Sedition Act.
Abraham Lincoln used his pardon power to promote desertions from the Confederacy.
Andrew Johnson pardoned thousands of Confederate soldiers in an attempt to effect national reconciliation.
Jimmy Carter pardoned 200,000 people that dodged the Vietnam draft.
The broad concept of governmental authority to provide relief from criminal punishment has deep historical roots.3 The power vested in the President by the Constitution traces its origins to authority held by the English Crown,4 leading the Supreme Court to look to legal principles underlying the latter in interpreting the scope of the former.5 A prerogative of mercy held by the King appeared during the reign of King Ine of Wessex (688–725 A.D.)6 and by 1535 had been declared by Parliament, during the reign of King Henry VIII (1509–1547 A.D.), as a right exclusive to the Crown.7
I don’t know of any modern case here of corruption of the power. The most recent exercise of it was to pardon Alan Turing and other gay men persecuted by the state.