US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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The perfect fumble said:
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

In establishment circles, both sides of the Atlantic, the Nazis were in vogue with a number of high profile individuals in the 1930s, but this was more a product of those politically chaotic times, the old certainties gone, where the fear of Bolshevism gripped figures like 1st World War Prime Minister Lloyd George "the man who won the war"

In 1936, Lloyd George visited Germany and met with Hitler twice. He admired Hitler's ability to reduce unemployment, and by the country's overall economic and social conditions. He was impressed by the "universal adoration" of Hitler throughout Germany. He said he had never seen the Germans "happier". He called Hitler "one of the greatest of the many great men I have ever met". He also described Hitler as the "George Washington of Germany".

I'm no expert on US politics of the 1930s, but if you believe, as I do, that capitalism in America has two political wings, the Democrats and the Republicans, then communism has always been seen as a greater enemy than fascism, and that includes the war years. It's a myth that the USA, or the UK for that matter, fought the second world war primarily to defeat fascism. In the post war years we were more than wiling to turn a blind eye to fascists if they were a useful bulwark against communism, particularly in the newly independent nations of the post colonial world.

Those inter war years are greatly misunderstood and viewing them through a post war prism is a waste of time.

A Nazi rally held in Madison Square Garden, February 20th 1939​


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Thats the meeting of the German Bund led by Fritz Khun


Away from this thread ... look up Father Charles Coughlin / Francis P Yockey / Henry Ford (who's portriat was displayed in Hitlers office ) / Charles Lindberg .... interesting reading
 
bugsyblue said:
Haha I don't know if you're taking the piss or not?!
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You don’t have to get elected to the Supreme City only confirmed by the Senate. While most vacancies are created when someone dies, a justice can resign.

The left were furious with Bader Ginsberg. They tried to get her to resign.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Spent my last 24 hours reading as much opinion as possible to see what others think, and where they think the train derailed.

There are 3 MASSIVE takeaways:

1) Merrick Garland allowed Trump this time and space, when he should have moved less glacially to indict him. Now, just as sentencing and lawsuits are coming to fruition, it has all been for nought, with the exception of giving Trump a bludgeon with which to beat the establishment and the media that covered the historic events.

2) Biden should never have run and should have held true to his initial intent, and those closest to him, who saw the decay firsthand, did the country a disservice.

3) Harris tried an “opposites” campaign, where she was the opposite of Trump, the antidote to Trump, and the slayer of dragons. Unfortunately, the country wanted to hear strength, economic fixes, and change. She failed to give them what they wanted, even though it was well within her grasp, as Trump lies that every day was going to be Cake and Ice Cream under him, as long as you were a real American…whatever that means!
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Apparently it was ordained by God and he is going to fix everyone’s problems.
I don’t really do popcorn but if I did, this would be me next year.
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