US Presidential Election, Nov 5th 2024

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Yes! Again, I already said I preferred his 4 years to Biden's. But I generally tend to protest vote the Presidential elections.

Other than Obama, I've generally 3rd party voted. Greens when I was younger, Libertarian in my older age.
But now I can add Trump to my list of major candidates I've voted for. And I did so happily.

You strike me as a contrarian and there's no law against that so have at it.

However if in your head you have somehow rationalised that voting for Trump isn't facilitating hatred then you are utterly deluding yourself.
 
I won't treat your personal story with the indifference and derision with which you've treated mine in the past.

I am disappointed some asshole did that to your daughter. I deeply dislike people who treat poorly simply because you disagree with them.

On these political chats, I receive a disproportionate amount of the abuse for simply disagreeing.

Thus, I empathize with your daughter and wish her the best. And hope she finds safe ways to deal with these bullies.


I'm not sure Trump is a good candidate. I had 2 opportunities to vote for him prior and chose not to.

Yes, it is true that I don't like leftist policies. But I generally tend to fight those locally where it most affects me personally.

But, for what it's worth, I preferred his administration to that of the current regime. I liked the reduction in illegal immigration, the good economy, low gas prices etc. Many have argued these weren't his doing, just a lucky idiot to be around when it occurred.

I liked his foreign policy World View. Which for better or worse can be summarized as let's make deals not war.

So even though I didn't vote for him the prior 2 times I actually did prefer the outcomes during his administration.

But as importantly, I specifically have an antipathy towards people who try to stop their political opposition anywhere other than the ballot box.

in 2019ish back when Foggy was more cordial, he'd often point out how terrible of a person Trump was, and i'd point out that if he was as terrible as Foggy believed, surely the voters will note it and vote him out. But, somehow the anti-Trump brigade never seemed to have enough faith in the electorate to vote who they clearly saw as a horrific President.

They'd rather he was impeached on some trumped up charges or jailed for failing to declare he paid Stormy Daniels.

I personally would rather put my faith in the hands of the American electorate.So As I condemned the riots of January 6th and his boorish behavior post the 2020 election, I equally condemn the lawfare and attempts to imprison or bankrupt him. I have seen that before in a Country far far away where Democracy often used to struggle.

But if you really want to know why I voted for him... It's quite simple. I voted for him because they tried to kill him and those who disagreed with him rejoiced.

Not just here... Everywhere. I found the giddiness about his close call with death repulsive. I found the memory-holing of the event despicable.

Id rather stand with him, than with those who felt giddy about him being nearly killed and wished he was, simply because he wanted to be President again.


That's why I voted for him. Openly so.


And if I might add, I'll never regret it.
Just for clarity, who exactly are the "they" who tried to kill him?
 
That is so depressing to read and I feel incredibly sorry for your daughter and for you. I find that one of the most worrying aspects in terms of how much we’ve allowed the current division and rhetoric to get into the next generation already. I’ve got three kids in education at different levels and they’ve experienced similar.

Your daughter’s at college, my son is a similar age. They shouldn’t be worrying about politics, at least to the point of creating division, at their age, they should be having fun and meeting people and understanding them and getting to know them without prejudice.

I have long thought we’re going to be the first generation in a long time to pass down a worse legacy to the next than we inherited (well, it’s between mine and my parents generation) and that depresses me more than anything.

Young american boys and girls who are living in Europe are incredibly educated.

All of them. Democrats or republicans or apolitical. From Texas or from New York.

Calm, interested in local culture, respectful, mature...

Being interested in politics is a sign of intelligence.

I have a theory that they are youngs guys whose parents are economically middle class or upper class and that is why they have the opportunity to live a year or two in Europe. It is impossible for ALL young Americans to be like this.

20 years ago when I was young, I saw the difference between an American girl and a Spanish girl.

American girls very educated, fascinated by the European world and for the local culture where they were living, capable of feeling INTELLECTUAL ATTRACTION FOR A MAN...

Spanish girls don't give a shit cultures or policy, just giving drama and being attracted for "garrulos" (garrulo = Sergio Ramos, Wayne Rooney, Eminem... you understand the concept).


The stereotype that Americans are uneducated is ABSOLUTELY FALSE.
 
Which is fine. Him having assassination attempts as a reason for doing it isn’t one I’d agree with.
I suppose it's deeper and more personal for me.
You strike me as a contrarian and there's no law against that so have at it.
Fair enough. I don't deny having been called that many times before.

However if in your head you have somehow rationalised that voting for Trump isn't facilitating hatred then you are utterly deluding yourself.
facilitating hatred? How so? Do you mind expanding on that a bit.
 
Spanish girls don't give a shit cultures or policy, just giving drama and being attracted for "garrulos" (garrulo = Sergio Ramos, Wayne Rooney, Eminem... you understand the concept).

In a thread that's quite depressing from a number of perspectives, seeing Sergio Ramos, The Granny Shagger and Eminem bracketed together is slightly bizarre but welcome light relief!
 
Then why he still get vote from a woman in election and very highly too. None is able to answer this question.
'How can he be a misogynist, he hired a woman" is like saying "I''m not racist, I have black friend's".

The majority of female trump voters wouldn't be able to pick E Jean Carroll or Stormy Danies out in a line up. They've probably heard the names, but don't understand the context because they get all their 'news' from Fox or Newsmax.
 
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