US Presidential Race 2016

[SWP's back]

True, some of them I guess. But so are those ethnic voter groups who are going to prevent him from winning.

I wish both would lose, somehow, but I find the sanctimonious, smug, self-satisfied hillary camp utterly annoying. A bit like the Remain camp, labelling brexiters as racist. Some were, but not all, and there are worthwhile, valid points in favour of both Trump and Brexit.

Ultimately its 1. Disruption to economy if trump wins (especially with the kicking we will get post-brexit) versus 2. entrenched corruption and risk of sabre-rattling with Russia is hillary wins.

Might go with 1, just, because I have a mortgage to pay.
But doesn't mean it's a clearcut "racism" or "good v evil" argument.

All I really care about are economics and there is no economic argument to support Trump so whilst they may be both top class wankers, this isn't even a close vote. Trump would bankrupt the States inside two years.

 

[SWP's back]

You might go with 'disruption to the economy' because you have a mortgage to pay?

Think he means reason will win out.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Fuck me. When was this?

It was 2 decades ago at a party with Jeffrey Epstein, it doesnt seem right to me, but there was a trial date but last I heard there was some doubt as to whether it would continue.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Yet he's still to the right of Teresa May. Crazy isn't it.

Most definitely, what we call left wing and what the Americans call left wing are 2 entirely different things. Bernie Sanders is at the most extreme of his views, what we would class as centre right.

 

[andyhinch]

Right, now we have the POTUS sorted any other problems?

Bluemoon is well known for it's diplomacy when it comes to international affairs, if only the muffin/Barm problem could be resolved so easily

 

[super_city_si]

Yet he's still to the right of Teresa May. Crazy isn't it.

yes, it makes me laugh when they describe someone as liberal when in reality they are so far right. They are so afraid of socialism.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

yes, it makes me laugh when they describe someone as liberal when in reality they are so far right. They are so afraid of socialism.

In America, socialism = communism

 

[SWP's back]

yes, it makes me laugh when they describe someone as liberal when in reality they are so far right. They are so afraid of socialism.

It's a bit mental yeah.

 

[andyhinch]

Yet he's still to the right of Teresa May. Crazy isn't it.

As you say very hard to prove, but you just have to look at the **** to know he's a wrong un

 

[west didsblue]

It was 2 decades ago at a party with Jeffrey Epstein, it doesnt seem right to me, but there was a trial date but last I heard there was some doubt as to whether it would continue.

There's a court appearance scheduled for 16 December. It's not a trial at this stage.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-rape-lawsuit