Shut up and go back to bedThis is the sort of thread you want when you can’t sleep. One where you agree with the OP’s idea but then there are some witty answers that make you laugh out loud. :-)
Clear and obvious was never a criterion for offside because they believe it’s black and white. My issue is that they trying to apply laboratory type measurement to determine the offside, which is nonsense as the tech isn’t up to it, but more importantly is the the reason for offside, which wasn’t to penalise a player for being a fraction in front of his opponents it was to stop “goal hanging” So, if they let the lino decide but intervene if it clear and obvious that a player was offside then that would be fine, and a sensible use of the tech. Then there is handball which they’ve messed around with the interpretation of many times trying to make it “black and white” there by making a total nonsense of it.When VAR was first introduced they said it would overturn’clear and obvious’ errors. ‘Clear and obvious’. A mm offside is not ‘clear and obvious’. Common sense - remember that? We used to use it once upon a time. We should be looking at decisions and asking would we have expected an official to actually spot that? If not then it should be left alone. But that would be using that strange thing called ‘common sense’.
Over the 2 legs there were a number of decisions that went against us, and not one for us...yet there is no agenda.In a parallel universe VAR turned over the decision to disallow the perfectly legitimate goal Sane scored against Liverpool. City went in 2:0 up at half time and went on to win the game! I think VAR needs a few tweaks but I don't want to go back to having perfectly good goals being disallowed.
It can’t be fixed. As long as you can’t celebrate a goal being scored in the moment the sport as we knew it will never be the same.It's come too far. There is no going back because it is now world wide across various leagues (and Internationals too). It's not the tech, it's the buffoons running it.
The thing is that it could be fixed, although whoever put PiGMOL in charge will find it impossible to get shot of the idiots. No idea what the contract was but the sooner they can get ex-footballer, ex-referees and the like to officiate the better.
Aye, but I think the reason this report was done (showing fans don't like it) and sports media are negative as much as they are this year (much more than last season), is because lfc are being adversely affected by it. All those lfc/utd fanboy reporters are now making this a thing.And murder their own baby?
I wish we could but I’m not sure it would happen and, even if it did, I’m not sure of it would make a difference :(What if when we went back we all turned our backs or something? No one wants it and it is ruining the game.
Do you think some sort of fan demonstration could be a success in seeing this farce off??
Or am I being delusional?
Quite right!In all seriousness it is too important an issue to let go. We can’t lose the natural joy of celebrating a goal.
Doubt it can be scrapped. Var is a actually a good concept, it definitely helps the referees. But doing a movement can help to make changes to some rules that VAR use like maybe to change handball rule, offside rule etc.What if when we went back we all turned our backs or something? No one wants it and it is ruining the game.
Do you think some sort of fan demonstration could be a success in seeing this farce off??
Or am I being delusional?
This is where I don’t understand the fans who like VAR. How can any passionate football fan think it’s fine to lose the spontaneity of a goal celebration. Baffling to say the least.In all seriousness it is too important an issue to let go. We can’t lose the natural joy of celebrating a goal.
The main reason why I fucking hate it. Unfortunately it's here to stay and football will never be the same again.This is where I don’t understand the fans who like VAR. How can any passionate football fan think it’s fine to lose the spontaneity of a goal celebration. Baffling to say the least.
That last comment says it all mate, back in the day nobody gave a fuck who the refs and lino’s were and mostly never heard of em...Offside wants doing away with altogether , all the decent goals wiped off because some prick can draw straight lines to prove the big toe was offside is a complete nonsense!
What happened to the daylight rule?
I think I’d rather go back to the Brown envelope refs robbing us as at least it was instant and we can sing “Who’s The Bastard In The Black” again!
We have to do something or our game will be stolen off usWhat if when we went back we all turned our backs or something? No one wants it and it is ruining the game.
Do you think some sort of fan demonstration could be a success in seeing this farce off??
Or am I being delusional?
What would they say if all fans of all clubs had a day of action & picked a weekend to boycott the games ?Fifa have taken control of VAR. Here to stay, so rule change is only hope.