Var debate 2019/20

karen7 said:
Someone has had enough

Pep Guardiola on the missed penalty vs Spurs: “In the Champions League, it would be retaken, but in England there is a new rule. The referees spoke with my team and said they don’t care and the goalkeeper can go forward and they will not disallow it..."

“So, in one country, it is one way and, in another, it is another way. That’s the situation. I’m not in the meetings any more. In Europe, you would have to repeat the penalty, but in England? No. Here, they say the keepers can do that." #MCFC | @ManCity
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Doesn't make sense to me - does this mean the English game can change any rule it wants as long as it is restricted to our shores?
 
karen7 said:
Someone has had enough

Pep Guardiola on the missed penalty vs Spurs: “In the Champions League, it would be retaken, but in England there is a new rule. The referees spoke with my team and said they don’t care and the goalkeeper can go forward and they will not disallow it..."

“So, in one country, it is one way and, in another, it is another way. That’s the situation. I’m not in the meetings any more. In Europe, you would have to repeat the penalty, but in England? No. Here, they say the keepers can do that." #MCFC | @ManCity
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What makes it even stranger is that it’s one of the few decisions VAR can get spot on.
 
Steve ireland said:
I guess the real question is whether we'd be happy if VAR was removed or would we be moaning even more about offsides not seen or given incorrectly, penalties not given or given by mistake, certainly the shithousing in the penalty area which has all but ceased would return with knobs on, personally I think with a few tweaks here and there it's far better with VAR
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well said
 
toffee balls said:
I’m on board with you pal.

It is getting and will continue to get better.
PIGMOL cannot continue to have it all ways though , all tight calls need to be shown both to the match day crowd and the TV audience.
Liverpool and United should be told to lose the seats and fit the system, period.
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Fuck them, if they don’t have it tough shit, the two biggest clubs haven’t got screens unfucking lucky, all other teams should be allowed to see it, let their fans kick up a fuss at their grounds. It’s no different to VAR been used in the cups at only premier league grounds.
 
Its going to take more than a few tweaks to get VAR fully operational, and to convince us sceptical supporters that it will be beneficial for the game. Both United and Liverpool had found a way to circumnavigate the whole thing already.
 
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2 goals and 4 points lost by us to VAR against Leicester this season. We still have had only one in our favour, when Jonny was fouled by 2 Southampton players in the area, the ref inexplicably didn't give it but VAR did
 
Lupo said:
2 goals and 4 points lost by us to VAR against Leicester this season. We still have had only one in our favour, when Jonny was fouled by 2 Southampton players in the area, the ref inexplicably didn't give it but VAR did
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Take solace in the fact that its nothing against you and everything to do with Leicester needing and being given a lot of help, yet again as they did when they miraculously won the league.
 
RayCTID said:
Its going to take more than a few tweaks to get VAR fully operational,
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I think you might be right, but by the evidence of the rags game against chelsea tonight, I think your idea of "fully operational" and PIGMOL's version of "fully operational" may be far apart because

RayCTID said:
to convince us sceptical supporters that it will be beneficial for the game.
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aint their aim pal. The point of it, ironically, is exactly what you wrote in your last line...

RayCTID said:
Both United and Liverpool had found a way to circumnavigate the whole thing already.
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Not so much that it's them that are doing it, if you catch my drift, but they're benefiting.

VAR has shown us tonight just what it can do.

It can leave a man on a pitch who shouldn't have been on the pitch to score a crucial goal to put a game to bed.
It can disallow an equalizing goal despite the evidence showing that either a penalty or a goal should have been the decision.
It can frame manipulate another goal to look offside.

All important decisions, in any given game, can now be given FOR the "chosen ones",

This can now be achieved almost at will.
The processes required to give these decisions have been honed after sufficient practice upon the masses under their belts in "nothing" games not involving the "good guys", and the "bad guys" being involved in ALL the initial trials of every type of NEW contentious decision that VAR has opened up to them was too big a temptation.

Football is in a very, very strange place.

Roll on Real Madrid.
Tonight was probably only a practice run.

On a lighter note, Micah on 5Live was funny as f@ck.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
I think you might be right, but by the evidence of the rags game against chelsea tonight, I think your idea of "fully operational" and PIGMOL's version of "fully operational" may be far apart because



aint their aim pal. The point of it, ironically, is exactly what you wrote in your last line...



Not so much that it's them that are doing it, if you catch my drift, but they're benefiting.

VAR has shown us tonight just what it can do.

It can leave a man on a pitch who shouldn't have been on the pitch to score a crucial goal to put a game to bed.
It can disallow an equalizing goal despite the evidence showing that either a penalty or a goal should have been the decision.
It can frame manipulate another goal to look offside.

All important decisions, in any given game, can now be given FOR the "chosen ones",

This can now be achieved almost at will.
The processes required to give these decisions have been honed after sufficient practice upon the masses under their belts in "nothing" games not involving the "good guys", and the "bad guys" being involved in ALL the initial trials of every type of NEW contentious decision that VAR has opened up to them was too big a temptation.

Football is in a very, very strange place.

Roll on Real Madrid.
Tonight was probably only a practice run.

On a lighter note, Micah on 5Live was funny as f@ck.
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It is blind optimism in thinking VAR could be fairly used and you are right tonight shows how bent the whole system is.
 
United with a sniff of finishing 5th which MAY get them into UCL next season - VAR to their aid their cause from now until the end of the season (unless our ban gets thrown out before then)
 
Lupo said:
2 goals and 4 points lost by us to VAR against Leicester this season. We still have had only one in our favour, when Jonny was fouled by 2 Southampton players in the area, the ref inexplicably didn't give it but VAR did
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the first game of the season handball one was a joke, you shoulda won that game by all accounts (a la Jesus v spurs) - the second the other night, even more unjust.
BTW,Is there a more cringeworthy sight in football than watching Rodgers constantly making notes in his little notepad whenever the camera pans on him. Like some pretentious purist jfk prick.
 
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