Gordyola
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Because onside could be heard as offside
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VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)
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MikeF
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It’d help if they stopped talking over one another. Unbelievable
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Liverpool fans demanding VAR is scrapped. What they fall to mention is if their wasn't VAR at the Spurs game the goal still wouldnt have stood as it was given off side by the assistant ref
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Retrospective action.And what if they don’t see the incident?
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Liverpool fans demanding VAR is scrapped. What they fall to mention is if their wasn't VAR at the Spurs game the goal still wouldnt have stood as it was given off side by the assistant ref
They are all fucking idiots. There are many problems with VAR that can you can use to question its use. This isn't one of them.
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Yeh, can forever improve the system, that’s the good thing about VAR.
Never really had that prior VAR, it just had to be accepted when a goal was given miles offside or when a ref pointed to the spot for a clear dive etc.
And if you "tweak" the "no come-back when play is restarted" rule, how long would you leave it open? 2 seconds? 10 seconds? 2 minutes? Phase of play? Until Liverpool complains? Indefinitely? Think about what you are suggesting. A stupid "tweak" for an error that shouldn't have happened and can easily be prevented by changing communucation protocol rather than changing the way the game is played. We have had enough of that shit.
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Here is a question. Anfield has no screen to show the result of VAR interventions, right? In thus case, what would have been shown on the screen if they had had one? Presumably "Onside. Goal" or some such and everyone could have seen the mistake, including the players and the referee.
The words hoisted and petard come to mind.
The words hoisted and petard come to mind.
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They should follow crickets example and state up front what they are checking for. In a cricket review for lbw (for example) the drs official states “checking for lbw, the on field decision was out” or “the on field decision was not out”.
so in this case they should have said “checking for offside, the on field decision was goal” and the referee could have corrected them and told them “the on field decision was no goal”.
The language used in that audio clip (up to the point of the expletives) is so vague and ambiguous that I’m not surprised the error was made. Everybody assumed they were talking about the same thing. It’s a bit of a shambles from a communication point of view and I would have thought that the protocol would be to ensure everybody in the conversation knew what they were actually checking for. Getting aligned is not difficult
so in this case they should have said “checking for offside, the on field decision was goal” and the referee could have corrected them and told them “the on field decision was no goal”.
The language used in that audio clip (up to the point of the expletives) is so vague and ambiguous that I’m not surprised the error was made. Everybody assumed they were talking about the same thing. It’s a bit of a shambles from a communication point of view and I would have thought that the protocol would be to ensure everybody in the conversation knew what they were actually checking for. Getting aligned is not difficult
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Who is Oli Kohut?
He is the operator who actually generates the images and draws the lines the VAR requests. Also seemingly the only one of the three of them who seemed to notice anything was amiss when Tottenham took a free kick rather than kicked off to restart play. He had previously worked for Hawkeye it seems.
Think the confusion with the audio comes from the fact he starts appealing to “Ollie” when he realises the VAR and AVAR have become frozen in confusion. That “Ollie” is Michael Oliver, the 4th official.
He’s the only one who comes out of this with any credit. Perhaps they should sack the other two off and just leave it all to the only guy who seemed to know what he was doing.