VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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Pingu the Penguin said:
Sounds promising. What is the published margin of error?
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Not sure but personally I have a lot more confidence in it. There will also be no more waiting around for 5 minutes looking for the right frame and for the VAR to decide where to draw the lines on the pitch. They've used it in UEFA competitions for the last few years and it's barely noticeable which can only be good.
 
jaiguruKun said:
There is a chip in the ball that produces an image of the pitch and the line is drawn automatically rather than by a human. From what I've seen it shows much more clearly whether there's an offside or not
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the report i read said not using this system as Adidas own rights and PL use nike balls
but theres loads of different opinions
 
jaiguruKun said:
Not sure but personally I have a lot more confidence in it. There will also be no more waiting around for 5 minutes looking for the right frame and for the VAR to decide where to draw the lines on the pitch. They've used it in UEFA competitions for the last few years and it's barely noticeable which can only be good.
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I’ve just been googling and FIFA say it’s the most accurate offside technology there is but don’t say what the margin of error is. Apparently Victoria University in Oz did some research on its effectiveness but I can’t see their published findings
 
It's strange that video technology works perfectly well in rugby union, rugby league, cricket and tennis but in football it's a total mess. Is this just a reflection of how badly the F.A. and the Premier League are running the game?
 
It's was better without it. There are just as many bad decisions as there were before and just as many people crying bent after every game. It's ruining the most fun aspect of the game - goals. What's the point of keeping it? Automated decisions might be better but it probaly wont. It will likely lead to more marginal decisions, players a toenail off side. There's a reason football is the most beloved sport of the last 150 odd years why keep trying to change things? We need to accept human error is part of the game and work at ensuring corruption is prevented instead of robots
 
It needs to be added that the handball law was changed with VAR being brought in, presumably to replace subjective intentional handball with the supposedly objective t shirt bullshit where now no one has any fucking idea if it's a penalty when the ball hits an arm in the penalty area.

And whilst BT and Sky will never admit it, they will secretly love VAR as it's the one area where you get a better viewing experience watching on TV, seeing multiple super slow-mo angles, than at the game where you wait for 3 minutes to get a message on the screen saying VAR are looking into it. And they will then love the controversy it generates.

And looking at tackles in super slow-mo actually gives a distorted impression and makes them appear much worse than they are leading to more red cards.

And if there's a high tackle in the middle of the pitch there's a tendency now for referees to give a yellow card and leave it to VAR to overrule them, so it's leading to refs fudging decisions which isn't going to lead to better officiating.

And the waiting around for decisions disrupts the entire flow of the game

And the biggest fucking irony of all is when they are checking offsides to the millimetre they don't then add all the fucking time it takes back on.

Fuck it right off.
 
Not sure where people are getting the idea from that it all works fine and without controversy in other leagues?

Italy and Spain in particular have huge issues almost on a weekly basis.
 
domalino said:
I hope the vote to get rid of it, it’ll be fucking hilarious.

There’ll be 4 months of absolute chaos as everyone remembers how many shit decisions we used to get, how many things the referees miss and dozens of offside decisions a week are wrong, and then an emergency Christmas vote to bring it back.
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My whole argument for a long time.

Watch the return of ridiculous dives, clear offside goals being allowed to stand, clear handballs not given etc and the outrage after every match about the ‘corrupt’ refs - and yes there’s still far to many incidences with even the benefit of a replay the officials still get wrong, which is infuriating.

It’s funny how many are now saying to keep it after this announcement considering the stick I get for arguing the same.

Anyway, I’m really not arsed either way. There will be constant outrage with or without VAR, just personally believe Refs need tech help as the game is too fast, frantic, they miss to much and it’s impossible job with a bias crowd and cheating players everywhere.
 
Brightwell’s left peg said:
I want to be able to celebrate a goal without having it retrospectively ruled out.

Every single goal celebration is ruined as a result of VAR.

Every suggestion at keeping, but improving misses this point for me.

The main enjoyment of football is ruined and forever will be, no matter how good the review system is.
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My main issue too. I hate only being able to celebrate restarts.
 
jaiguruKun said:
Not sure but personally I have a lot more confidence in it. There will also be no more waiting around for 5 minutes looking for the right frame and for the VAR to decide where to draw the lines on the pitch. They've used it in UEFA competitions for the last few years and it's barely noticeable which can only be good.
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Was only introduced by UEFA from knock out rounds last season First used in Qatar World Cup
 
I like the idea of automated offside but I wish that they changed the rule so that there had to be clear "daylight" to be offside. That gives the attacker more of an advantage and is nice and simple.
 
domalino said:
I hope the vote to get rid of it, it’ll be fucking hilarious.

There’ll be 4 months of absolute chaos as everyone remembers how many shit decisions we used to get, how many things the referees miss and dozens of offside decisions a week are wrong, and then an emergency Christmas vote to bring it back.
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It’s no better with VAR because of the criteria of clear and obvious. The offside was so much better when managed by Linos, we won’t have the ridiculous mm offside any more But, crucial is that the game will be better officiated with more consistent decisions across the pitch instead of, someone hundreds of miles away being a able to interfere only for certain situations.
There will be no more holding the flag, which is so inconsistent it’s untrue, and maybe we can go back to the interpretation of handball before VAR instead of the change to try and make it less subjective to suit VAR Using freeze frame,
slow motion pondering over a situation whilst thousands of fans in the stadium no fuck all yet, Tv viewers are told beige the stadium to the extent that text messages with the decision are received first. Somehow I doubt it will be voted out but we can but hope
 
TonyM said:
I like the idea of automated offside but I wish that they changed the rule so that there had to be clear "daylight" to be offside. That gives the attacker more of an advantage and is nice and simple.
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You’re advocating a huge change in the offside law there. And would be revolutionising how teams have to defend.

An attacker with his trailing leg level with a part of the second last defender could be two yards off under today’s laws.

It wouldn’t just be tipping the balance slightly in favour of the attacking team. It would be completely changing the whole game.

Not for me.
 
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