VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

[Xhavenjoe]

can see an end game where a buzzer sounds over the PA system as soon as a player touches or even runs towards a pass from an offside position

Sounds like squid game

 

[Stephen230]

The fact that it's SEMI-automated tells a different story to your first paragraph. From what I understand it still requires human input as to WHEN the ball is played, it's only then that the automated system kicks in.

I honestly wouldn't trust the bunch of officials we have in this country to be able to correctly identify the exact point in time when the ball was kicked at kick-off or at a goal-kick, let along during play.

I think you’re wrong. But I’ll admit I’m not certain.

My understanding is that judging if a player is in an offside position is fully automated. The human in-put only comes in when deciding if a player is interfering with play or an opponent.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

I think you’re wrong. But I’ll admit I’m not certain.

My understanding is that judging if a player is in an offside position is fully automated. The human in-put only comes in when deciding if a player is interfering with play or an opponent.

I'll hold my hands up, what I wrote was what I thought I'd remembered hearing at the time of the world cup, but having just read an article on it, you're correct; offsides are fully automated with chips in the centre of the ball to detect "exact kick points".

From the article...
"By combining the limb- and ball-tracking data and applying artificial intelligence, the new technology provides an automated offside alert to the video match officials inside the video operation room whenever the ball is received by an attacker who was in an offside position at the moment the ball was played by a team-mate. Before informing the on-field referee, the video match officials validate the proposed decision by manually checking the automatically selected kick point and the automatically created offside line, which is based on the calculated positions of the players’ limbs. This process happens within a few seconds and means that offside decisions can be made faster and more accurately.

What happens if the video match officials do not agree with the proposed kick point and/or offside line?

If the video match officials do not agree with the kick point and/or offside line proposed by the system, they can manually select the kick point and use the existing tools to draw the offside line."

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

I think you’re wrong. But I’ll admit I’m not certain.

My understanding is that judging if a player is in an offside position is fully automated. The human in-put only comes in when deciding if a player is interfering with play or an opponent.

As ever with the football authorities they hold back info which would help people understand the system. It’s so frustrating

 

[halfcenturyup]

I think you’re wrong. But I’ll admit I’m not certain.

My understanding is that judging if a player is in an offside position is fully automated. The human in-put only comes in when deciding if a player is interfering with play or an opponent.

That's right. The moment the ball is played us determined by the cameras at UEFA and by a motion sensor in the ball at FIFA. God knows why two different systems. Football, eh?

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

… awaits VAR apologists to justify the Calvert-Lewin sending off

These idiots are fucking ruining our game

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

Decisions like that and the Jota penalty on Monday night are just going to encourage play acting and diving in the game

The Palace player there was barely touched but stayed down pretending to be hurt to get a red card……and it worked
No punishment for play acting, it’s encouraged

 

[wattle]

Oh do fuck off VAR. what the fuck is that all about. Every fucking game it’s getting involved where it doesn’t need to.

 

[RadcliffeRick]

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Make your own mind up.

The groundsman needs sacking for those lines not being at right angle to the sidelines.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Decisions like that and the Jota penalty on Monday night are just going to encourage play acting and diving in the game

The Palace player there was barely touched but stayed down pretending to be hurt to get a red card……and it worked
No punishment for play acting, it’s encouraged

Oh no! VAR has eradicated play acting and dangerous fouls from the game

;-)