VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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TinFoilHat said:
Now Liverpool have been fucked over it's funny how some media outlets are looking for conspiracies.
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Remember the media outcry when Wolves had an onside late goal ruled out at Anfield in the FA cup last season and the dippers went on to win the replay, no me neither
 
It’s not really working is it. Funny when it happens to Liverpool but we‘ve had plenty of shit from var too, and there are way too many decisions that favour rags.

I used to think it was to cheat us but no way Liverpool would have bad decisions if that was the case, so I just think it’s incompetence. Plus it’s taken the spontaneous joy out of watching, you’re always thinking will they find a slight handball fifteen passes earlier to disallow it.

Football was better without var in its current state.
 
I'm glad it's Liverpool on the receiving end, not just because it's Liverpool but because when it is them or united the sense of injustice is heightened and something might get done about VAR. I'd pettily settle for Webb's sacking at the moment but the abolition of VAR altogether is the end game.
 
VAR is a good idea in principle but it’s also n the practice that it falls down, if you have incompetent officials it’s never going to work, the whole standard of refereeing has fallen over the last few years and VAR is just making it worse, what would improve it?

Accountability!
 
The outrage because Liverpool are on the receiving end of poor decisions is so evident to see. I can guarantee that if those had gone against us it would just be one of those things, and we'd have deserved that first red for sure.
The record never changes when it's the scousers or rags being hard done to
 
Gazza said:
But weigh that against the delay in goal celebrations is it worth it? Football was ok for 100 years or more without VAR and now with it it is worse.
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That glaring mistake yesterday looks as suspicious as fuck, so many angles to choose from and the official either couldn't be arsed or has took a bung.

IMHO it's one of the two.
 
Semper aggressus said:
It’s not really working is it. Funny when it happens to Liverpool but we‘ve had plenty of shit from var too, and there are way too many decisions that favour rags.

I used to think it was to cheat us but no way Liverpool would have bad decisions if that was the case, so I just think it’s incompetence. Plus it’s taken the spontaneous joy out of watching, you’re always thinking will they find a slight handball fifteen passes earlier to disallow it.

Football was better without var in its current state.
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You need to go next level conspiracy mate: They're deliberately being incompetent to cover for when they want to be corrupt against us. If everyone thinks they're idiots, then they won't notice the corruption.
 
Replacing the officials isn't enough, it's just brushing it all under the carpet.

Sack them.
 
An odd world where we try to get rid of human error with VAR and the people working it are making human errors too.

I was reading Spurs community, KUMB, redcafe and RAWK last night and everyone thinks VAR is against them too. It's become more of a nuisance than the vuvezelas at the South African world cup

I've repeated myself ad-nauseam over it and I mentioned it before it would even come into the game it would ruin the sport. It started when Sky replays would show replay after replay of incidents to incite fans. People like Alan Hansen on MOTD would blame refs and stir the pot when even it wasn't possible to see.

I've seen at least 20 offsides against Spurs when we have scored. It's by toenails, finger tips, shoulders, hair, or the lines seem wonky etc. It's stupid. One day it's 3 minutes to make a decision, one day it's 20 seconds. Yesterday with Liverpool there is no lines and we carry on. I feel like we are being led up the garden path at times, like that show that dares people to do shit and see how far they can push it.

Time to scrap innocuous handballs, offsides and stick to dangerous fouls and goal line technology only

I don't think it was as broke as people make out, but it's always fun to blame a ref. If this was meant to fix referee error, and errors occur more frequently now, then something is very fishy to me
 
Will they release audio of this offside on MNF or is 48hrs to short notice to get their story sorted?

I think Darren England spilt his drink on the keyboard or accidentally shut down his PC when trying to draw the lines.
 
mexico1970 said:
That glaring mistake yesterday looks as suspicious as fuck, so many angles to choose from and the official either couldn't be arsed or has took a bung.

IMHO it's one of the two.
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Darren England, the VAR was not paying attention. He saw it was offside and said "check complete" to indicate that the onfield decision should stand. He assumed the onfield decision was goal because he did not look at the linesman flag which was raised. I don't know why he did not draw any lines on the screen.
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
Darren England, the VAR was not paying attention. He saw it was offside and said "check complete" to indicate that the onfield decision should stand. He assumed the onfield decision was goal because he did not look at the linesman flag which was raised. I don't know why he did not draw any lines on the screen.
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The weird thing is just looking at it it was onside, weird decision.
 
Gazza said:
But weigh that against the delay in goal celebrations is it worth it? Football was ok for 100 years or more without VAR and now with it it is worse.
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Is it worth it? Probably not. Decisions are more likely to be correct with VAR than without VAR. But not 100% correct. The trade off is a small increase in accuracy for fewer goals and delays in goal celebrations.
 
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