VAR Discussion Thread - 2023/24 | PL clubs to vote on whether to scrap VAR (pg413)

Would you want VAR scrapped?

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Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
Darren England, the VAR was not paying attention. He saw it was offside and said "check complete" to indicate that the onfield decision should stand. He assumed the onfield decision was goal because he did not look at the linesman flag which was raised. I don't know why he did not draw any lines on the screen.
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all the Scouse not England nonsense, finally biting them on the arse
 
mexico1970 said:
The weird thing is just looking at it it was onside, weird decision.
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The liner got it wrong. But it's difficult for the liner to judge in real time. He only gets one view once, he has to watch the ball and the movement of the attacker and the defenders all at the same time, whilst he and the players are moving. He doesn't know what is going to happen either, although he can anticipate it.

The UEFA SOAT is preferable.
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
The liner got it wrong. But it's difficult for the liner to judge in real time. He only gets one view once, he has to watch the ball and the movement of the attacker and the defenders all at the same time, whilst he and the players are moving. He doesn't know what is going to happen either, although he can anticipate it.

The UEFA SOAT is preferable.
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Which is why VAR is in operation, I get the linesman can get it wrong but for VAR to deliver that clusterfuck of a decision it had to be utter incompetence or as corrupt as fuck.

As fans we should be calling this as it is, even though I feel unclean saying it when the vermin are concerned.
 
It's part of the game and the skip rats have to accept every once in a while even they will get a bad decision go against them
 
Gordyola said:
In the good old days apologies were never given the ref officiated the game to the best of his ability mistakes were made, just like every other participant, but the final whistle was the end of it Webb who loves the limelight finds it necessary to make apologies every week.
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Yes and I prefer the old days and if mistakes were made because of human error then so be it. Not when mistakes are made after looking at a video half a dozen times by a bloke in a studio and then by the referee at the match.
 
mexico1970 said:
Which is why VAR is in operation, I get the linesman can get it wrong but for VAR to deliver that clusterfuck of a decision it had to be utter incompetence or as corrupt as fuck.

As fans we should be calling this as it is, even though I feel unclean saying it when the vermin are concerned.
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That’s another thing that gets my goat too. The likes of Shearer and co when the give the linesman what for, moaning because he’s made a mistake on something that he seen in the blink of an eye. If they are so clever at it, why don’t they give it a go? Maybe they should try being a linesman at a match and see how difficult it is.
 
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threespires said:
VAR isn't going anywhere but it's implementation has been flawed from the outset. Other sports have managed to implement an approach to technology that is assistive to the match official and pretty much completely transparent. In comparison football's attempt seems to employ a different 'philosophy' to other sports and the relationship between the onfield ref and the var officials is a mess.

In an ideal world all assistive technology would be automated and under the control of on field officials. We're not there in terms of technology yet so the obvious thing to do, which has been said on here many times, is to.open up the mics and the replays and make the process much more transparent. That in turn would prompt the debate about the relationship between onfield and video refereeing; which is probably why they'll resist doing it.
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You’re probably right, it doesn’t stop me from having a good moan about it though;)
 
normskih said:
Yes and I prefer the old days and if mistakes were made because of human error then so be it. Not when mistakes are made after looking at a video half a dozen times by a bloke in a studio and then by the referee at the match.
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Half these useless wankers are just hoping that if they get a decision wrong it doesn’t matter because VAR will bale them out, trouble is they have their equally useless mates doing it and it turns into a shit show
 
Webb will probably pick some none decision in the game between Forest and Brentford to prove why he should still be in a job on TV on Monday.
 
I am a close to 60 year old, match going Blue all my life. I really struggle with any City loss, and the bigger corporate cheating since the VAR rules have been introduced on a daily/weekly basis. We thought, or I thought this would be the leveller. As again, I was wrong. I have witnessed last weeks clogging from English managers v Forest, Geordies and yesterday's continental Wolves boot boys. They are beyond, if the lad who scored the winner was in a City shirt he would have walked. Oh yes, i'm, a bad loser but today I am finished, can someone at PIGMOL, the Daily Mail, Sly Sports explain, While I was pissed in Mallorca, Brentford didn't get a first half penalty for the facing handball? I am a drunk and stupid, and biased to the core. BUT, it was absolutely NO difference to the one that fell in the rags hands at Wembley in the Grealish incident. Can anyone explain to me the difference please?
 
spacecadet said:
I am a close to 60 year old, match going Blue all my life. I really struggle with any City loss, and the bigger corporate cheating since the VAR rules have been introduced on a daily/weekly basis. We thought, or I thought this would be the leveller. As again, I was wrong. I have witnessed last weeks clogging from English managers v Forest, Geordies and yesterday's continental Wolves boot boys. They are beyond, if the lad who scored the winner was in a City shirt he would have walked. Oh yes, i'm, a bad loser but today I am finished, can someone at PIGMOL, the Daily Mail, Sly Sports explain, While I was pissed in Mallorca, Brentford didn't get a first half penalty for the facing handball? I am a drunk and stupid, and biased to the core. BUT, it was absolutely NO difference to the one that fell in the rags hands at Wembley in the Grealish incident. Can anyone explain to me the difference please?
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There isn't an explanation, only a blatant contradiction. But I must report that the application of VAR down The Lane yesterday was a model of propriety. Klippity shares this opinion.
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
Darren England, the VAR was not paying attention. He saw it was offside and said "check complete" to indicate that the onfield decision should stand. He assumed the onfield decision was goal because he did not look at the linesman flag which was raised. I don't know why he did not draw any lines on the screen.
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..... because it was not necessary to do so, it was so blatantly obvious that it was onside, a blind man can see that and he was operating under the misapprehension that the onfield decision was a goal. Any explanation other than this means corruption conquers incompetence every time.
 
None of us, in the 21st century, should be having this discussion. We should not be in a position where we are talking about poor refereeing decisions. We have so many cameras at the games now it's debatable whether there are more supporters in the ground than there are cameras. Every millisecond of the game is captured digitally and can be scrutinised by those at Stockley Park and at the ground itself - but they continue to get it wrong. Why?
This is a multi-billion pound sport we are talking about, but Pgmol are a body of professional football officials who are accountable to nobody and answer to nobody. How in the name of Lucy Worsley's front bottom did this come about?
The errors these so-called 'professionals' are making can (and do) have a catastrophic effect on clubs who -of course- are a business and therefor need a regular turnover. The absolute disregard pgmol show to these clubs with their half-hearted apologies after yet another display of staggering ineptitude is a slap in the face to us all.

Where is the point in managers/coaches working on the training ground, discussing and employing tactics for the next game, only for the result to be decided on the whim of a man who will never have to account for his decisions to anyone? He can disallow a perfectly good goal and nobody can question him for fear of 'bringing the game into disrepute.'
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
Darren England, the VAR was not paying attention. He saw it was offside and said "check complete" to indicate that the onfield decision should stand. He assumed the onfield decision was goal because he did not look at the linesman flag which was raised. I don't know why he did not draw any lines on the screen.
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Can't he just tell the ref to stop the game and award the goal after he realised he didn't give it ?
 
Chak19 said:
Can't he just tell the ref to stop the game and award the goal after he realised he didn't give it ?
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Exactly. England should have been in his ear asking him why he didn’t agree with him and give the goal. Still the dipper petitions and local mps bringing it up in parliament alongside Andy “Scouse ****”Burnham bringing it up on the national news will no doubt get the dippers favourable outcomes in the future games
 
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