VAR Discussion Thread | 2024/25

[chris63]

 

[Gordyola]

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Wasn’t this before VAR because VAR was introduced to stop any mistakes
For me the Newcastle player’s tackle was worse with more force but apparently it was incidental contact on Phil, maybe because it didn’t break his ankle after all the criteria is much higher for a City player to be fouled
There is no excuse to be inconsistent VAR has the benefit of slow motion and freeze frame numerous times yet it fails time and time again it’s not fit for purpose or maybe it’s deliberate and it depends upon the shirt colour?

 

[chris63]

Didn't they say it was after Phil got the shot off. In that case the foul on the Arsenal player was after he got the pass off.

 

[BlueHammer85]

VAR for corners is long overdue, can’t believe the amount of wrongly given goal kicks given instead of corners. Its a huge error from the officials on a regular basis and rather infuriating (when it’s for your team)

 

[WesthoughtonJohn]

VAR for corners is long overdue, can’t believe the amount of wrongly given goal kicks given instead of corners. Its a huge error from the officials on a regular basis and rather infuriating (when it’s for your team)

Can't agree mate.
The way the upcoming WC is shaping up the games will be played across about 3 hours - refreshments breaks, weather breaks now additional VAR break

 

[Coljj]

95% of Corner corrections could be communicated by VAR to the ref within 15 seconds of the ball going out.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

95% of Corner corrections could be communicated by VAR to the ref within 15 seconds of the ball going out.

Or the on-field officials could just do their jobs properly?

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Oooh, getting the corner/goal kick conundrum sorted but what about the WWF that goes on as the corner is taken. Another blight on the game that they don't want to solve.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

VAR for corners is long overdue, can’t believe the amount of wrongly given goal kicks given instead of corners. Its a huge error from the officials on a regular basis and rather infuriating (when it’s for your team)

'Error'?

I recon some have been given the wrong way on purpose.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Oooh, getting the corner/goal kick conundrum sorted but what about the WWF that goes on as the corner is taken. Another blight on the game that they don't want to solve.

They don't, because it's one of those situations they can apply the rules 'subjectively' as and when it suits them.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

95% of Corner corrections could be communicated by VAR to the ref within 15 seconds of the ball going out.

Given the rise of throw ins as an attacking weapon is it them for the VAR treatment next?

 

[BlueHammer85]

Or the on-field officials could just do their jobs properly?

But they don’t/can’t and are forced into blind guessing which is ludicrous , hence we have VAR.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

SAOT camera's in the PL run at 100fps.

Fastest PL players can run up to 9.7m/s.

This equates to around 9.7cm per frame between on and offside for the fastest players IF the defender is static, but could be a greater distance if the defender is initially behind the ball and closing on the attacker.

Even if you half that speed for the slowest players it's 4.35cm per frame with the sane caveat regarding closing targets.

Basically, they are still guessing.

No no no! Offsides are objective black and white decisions :-)

illustrated by graphics that show people jumping at impossible times, generated in the environment of uncertainty you describe, and then subject to 5cm
Tolerance. It’s a fucking scandal

 

[Blue Mist]

Another shit show fir football fans who actually vrave the wi d rain and cold.
Apparently somebody's knee was possibly playing someone else on but wait, that's only the first of the checks.... did anyone time how long it took or did you all fall asleep/ shag the wife*/paint the hall stairs and landing ?

*ignore that one it was definitely longer than 2 minutes

 

[MillionMilesAway]

FIFA want to use VAR to check for corners at the World Cup.
Ostensibly to prevent wrong decisions.
But surely this is FIFA in the USA - commercial opportunities abound!

 

[TinFoilHat]

VAR using the it wasn't Erling rule to award Newcastle a penalty.

 

[halfcenturyup]

VAR for corners is long overdue, can’t believe the amount of wrongly given goal kicks given instead of corners. Its a huge error from the officials on a regular basis and rather infuriating (when it’s for your team)

A corner is just a method of getting the ball back in play, as are throw-ins for that matter. Neither are supposed to be game-changing events. We need to stop inventing new rules for them. And until VAR can get everything right that it is supposed to do now, it should stay away from anything else, imho. Mission creep, anyone?

 

[BlueHammer85]

A corner is just a method of getting the ball back in play, as are throw-ins for that matter. Neither are supposed to be game-changing events. We need to stop inventing new rules for them. And until VAR can get everything right that it is supposed to do now, it should stay away from anything else, imho. Mission creep, anyone?

Corners are huge, look how Arsenal have benefited from them this season, keeps the opposition on the back foot and under pressure. Not being awarded a corner when it clearly should have been shouldn’t be casually accepted.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

A corner is just a method of getting the ball back in play, as are throw-ins for that matter. Neither are supposed to be game-changing events. We need to stop inventing new rules for them. And until VAR can get everything right that it is supposed to do now, it should stay away from anything else, imho. Mission creep, anyone?

Mission creep absolutely.

We just wanted them to stop more Lampard non goals or the hand of god. We dint want this. Even its supporters must feel the same. total overreach.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Corners are huge, look how Arsenal have benefited from them this season, keeps the opposition on the back foot and under pressure. Not being awarded a corner when it clearly should have been shouldn’t be casually accepted.

:) Corners have become huge because they have turned into NFL moves which can have game changing impacts with weak refereeing but they are, nevertheless, just a method of getting the ball back in play. Next we will have seven referees throwing handkerchiefs on the floor.

Frankly, I would go the other way and reduce the impact of corners by applying the law properly, maybe even penalising offences when the ball isn't in play. But I'm not some suit who has to think up new ways to fuck the game over.

Like this stupid idea of taking an outfield player off after a goalkeeper injury. I mean, just why? They want to stop tactical time-outs? Don't let more than one player approach the coach during playing time, preferably only the captain, in the same way only he can approach the referee (yeah, right).

And, for the rest, just enforce the rules as they are. All the nonsense will soon stop.