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VAR impact and consequence log - game 27
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The Light Was Yellow Sir
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What would be hugely helpful from the referees is for them to explain, using examples from games from previous seasons, what would constitute ‘clear and obvious’ and what wouldn’t. Show us a penalty that wasn’t given and say why they’d have changed the decision. Same with a red card.The point of this thread isn't to consider what life would be like without VAR though is it, the point is the impact and consequences of the VAR decisions. To use your example, the general consensus of opinion is that the foul on Silva was a clear and obvious penalty, therefore, had VAR fulfilled its remit and corrected the referees clear and obvious error, we would have had a penalty.
The argument that VAR fulfilled it's remit in disallowing the Jesus goal for handball is wrong, because the referee not giving that is not a clear and obvious error.
Note, as I said on page 1, I'm sticking to the clear and obvious remit as that was what it was introduced to combat, you might argue that's wrong, you're entitled to your opinion, I will not change mine
Where it does smell a bit funny is that they’ve not overruled one referee and they have only used it to chalk off goals (penalty retake at West Ham notwithstanding).
As for the handball, if they’ve decided that no goals will ever count if a hand/arm has been involved, they need to explain how far back that can go.
For example, if Jesus has his shot blocked and then Sterling had scored, would it then have counted?
I think if we all knew these answers it’d be a bit easier to understand. The fact that we don’t means the system is flawed before it starts.
smevchenko
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The Sterling offside against WHU is a +1 GD missing. Don’t ever dismiss goal difference...it wins Championships!!!
You cannot say that with absolute certainty. That goal may have been given and therefore the rest of the match changes as a result. It may have stayed 3-0 after that, or finished 3-2.
We’d have gone on to score 6/7 I reckon.You cannot say that with absolute certainty. That goal may have been given and therefore the rest of the match changes as a result. It may have stayed 3-0 after that, or finished 3-2.
ChicagoBlue
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Seriously?!You cannot say that with absolute certainty. That goal may have been given and therefore the rest of the match changes as a result. It may have stayed 3-0 after that, or finished 3-2.
smevchenko
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Seriously?!
Well it might have also finished 8-0.... but the point is, if that goal stands then the rest of the match changes. It's like when a game is 0-0 after 30 mins and both teams have hit the post twice, and a commentator says 'It could be 2-2 this game'. Well it could be, but by the same token, it could be 1-0, 1-1, 0-1, 0-2, 2-0 etc
jimmygrimblesboots
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Just the favourable ones for the Dippers though?! Perhaps you should start a thread in the general football forum and track them? I fear you will be disappointed at the lack of evidence to back your theory.[/QUOT
Well i can only make a summation of the evidence after three games ,as your fears are yet to be proved , would love to spend half my life tracking VAR for all and sundry , but i have got a shed to paint and a dog that needs exercising.
ChicagoBlue
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Fuckin ell! You have an excellent grasp of the bleeding obvious, but apparently lack any notion of the fact that this is all bullshit conjecture, and the fact that I was actually making a joke in my initial post about someone keeping track of how VAR is going to fuck us....as if ANY of it matters one iota.Well it might have also finished 8-0.... but the point is, if that goal stands then the rest of the match changes. It's like when a game is 0-0 after 30 mins and both teams have hit the post twice, and a commentator says 'It could be 2-2 this game'. Well it could be, but by the same token, it could be 1-0, 1-1, 0-1, 0-2, 2-0 etc
Is your real name Francis by any chance?