VAR thread 2022/23

[BlueHammer85]

If you read the next sentence in my post you quoted then you'll realise I was joking. Good for you if you don't mind it. I wish I didn't

Yep, was more aimed at those that tag me in and say how much I love VAR whenever there’s a contentious issue

 

[wattle]

You have as much right as me to moan about VAR.

All I’m trying to show you is that it really isn’t a regular occurrence and it shouldn’t effect how you spontaneously react to a goal being scored.

1/44 of our goals have been disallowed so far this season. 2.27%.

Well it does, a lot. No worries though

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Very well said, fans have very short memory’s of the uproar from officials decisions - it was this uproar when something had to give - and they bought in VAR to try and help officials
The same fans that constantly moaned and abused the refs now wish to go back to that.

Fans were miss sold VAR.

 

[wattle]

Yep, was more aimed at those that tag me in and say how much I love VAR whenever there’s a contentious issue

It is definitely all you fault though haha

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Well it does, a lot. No worries though

Sorry mate. Truly.

I’d be less calm if this had happened in the CL final ;-)

 

[Blue Mist]

I've not seen the incidents so cannot yet comment on the decisions. Bt/uefa for some reason aren't showing them.
But, if a var intervenes 3 times in 45 minutes it shows one of 2 things. Either the ref is crap and should never referee again, or, the Var official is way out of his depth.
I haven't seen it but I've read it's 2 handballs that are the main issue. Yet again it is one person's interpretation of a law/rule that for some stupid reason we keep changing. The handball rule never changed from the moment football started until a few years ago. Now it's changed virtually every year. The people in charge are killing the game.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I've not seen the incidents so cannot yet comment on the decisions. Bt/uefa for some reason aren't showing them.
But, if a var intervenes 3 times in 45 minutes it shows one of 2 things. Either the ref is crap and should never referee again, or, the Var official is way out of his depth.
I haven't seen it but I've read it's 2 handballs that are the main issue. Yet again it is one person's interpretation of a law/rule that for some stupid reason we keep changing. The handball rule never changed from the moment football started until a few years ago. Now it's changed virtually every year. The people in charge are killing the game.

The big issue is that cameras pick up on the slightest brushes of the ball on hands/arms. For 100+ years, this wasn’t an issue as refs wouldn’t be expected to see it even if it was picked up on Pathé news.

Therefore the laws worked perfectly as nobody had anything to complain about.

Now, no one knows what constitutes handball anymore. It’s impossible to rewrite the laws to incorporate all the different possible nuances.

So, where do we go from here?

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

As furious as I was earlier, we can’t moan about Mahrez handball and not say the penalty was harsh, just like the emre can one from a couple of years back.

 

[Stephen230]

The handball rule never changed from the moment football started until a few years ago. Now it's changed virtually every year. The people in charge are killing the game.

Not quite true. Up until well into the 20th century goalkeepers could handle the ball any where inside their own half.

I agree with your point in general though. Probably the worst law change for me in my lifetime was when what constitutes a handball was deemed to vary depending on whether you were in an offensive or defensive situation.

I recall a couple of farcical situations where a defender accidentally diverted the ball with his arm onto the arm of the attacker and the correct decision was a free kick for the defending team.

 

[Blue Mist]

The big issue is that cameras pick up on the slightest brushes of the ball on hands/arms. For 100+ years, this wasn’t an issue as refs wouldn’t be expected to see it even if it was picked up on Pathé news.

Therefore the laws worked perfectly as nobody had anything to complain about.

Now, no one knows what constitutes handball anymore. It’s impossible to rewrite the laws to incorporate all the different possible nuances.

So, where do we go from here?

'No one knows what constitutes handball anymore'.
I agree with you. The obvious answer is Var should not be used.
I accept TV cameras make it harder but every schoolboy knew what handball was. A deliberate motion of the arm to block the ball. Why did the suits ever think they needed to change it ?
We know have the stupid spectacle of a player trying to stay on his feet whilst holding 2 hands behind his back.