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You interpret it differently.Yet the law states differently.
You interpret it differently.Yet the law states differently.
I interpret it correctly. In Ruben's case where do you think his arm should have been for it to be in a natural position. And let me state that it's my belief that defenders who run with their arms behind their backs are not running with their arms in a natural position.You interpret it differently.
You can state what you like. You interpret it in your own way, but that isn’t how referees have interpreted it for 2 years and continue not to.I interpret it correctly. In Ruben's case where do you think his arm should have been for it to be in a natural position. And let me state that it's my belief that defenders who run with their arms behind their backs are not running with their arms in a natural position.
Let's see shall we this season. The refs are interpreting the laws incorrectly, it's there in black and white. Did Ruben have his arm in an unnatural position and the answer is no. Therefore it shouldn't have been given as a penalty. In rugby when there is a potential blow to the head there is a series of questions the refs ask to ensure they reach the right decision, the same in cricket regarding LBW, yet in football it appears it's made up on the hoof and decisions change from one week to the next or in some cases during a game. VAR is a shamble and it needs a total overhaul for it to be used in the way the fans thought it would be. At the moment it's being used to aid and abet corruption and betting syndicates.You can state what you like. You interpret it in your own way, but that isn’t how referees have interpreted it for 2 years and continue not to.
If a defender’s hand is raised and the ball hits it without prior deflection, it will be given as a penalty.
We’re already seeing how it will unfold. The same as last season and the season before.Let's see shall we this season. The refs are interpreting the laws incorrectly, it's there in black and white. Did Ruben have his arm in an unnatural position and the answer is no. Therefore it shouldn't have been given as a penalty. In rugby when there is a potential blow to the head there is a series of questions the refs ask to ensure they reach the right decision, the same in cricket regarding LBW, yet in football it appears it's made up on the hoof and decisions change from one week to the next or in some cases during a game. VAR is a shamble and it needs a total overhaul for it to be used in the way the fans thought it would be. At the moment it's being used to aid and abet corruption and betting syndicates.
Well i think no matter how much training referees get to counter bias I do think it creeps through, its only natural.
And because of that, if it is one person taking decisions then ok, there might be some bias but probably not.
But if you have 6 or 7 people then the odds increase. Add to that the anonymity involved from the VAR team, the lack of kickback/scrutiny with major fuckups (or maybe just plain bias) like the non utd penalty then I think "Match Commanders" or anyone in that VAR room can affect the decisions.
I would love to hear the machinations of the decision making, I am assuming it is chaos with everyone having an input, or having an 'argument' on why a particular decision should or could be made.
Add to that I am a little paranoid when it comes to things that are hidden from us. Which is why they should, and will let us hear what's going on.
Leave it out, you are sounding like a WUM. We already have one of them on this thread, I thought you were better than that.So you have no interest in any game that City aren’t playing, yet you come on here and chat passionately about the games you don’t watch?
Imagine how you could debate if you did watch the other games and have better context!
I just don’t see the point of howling at the moon about VAR.Leave it out, you are sounding like a WUM. We already have one of them on this thread, I thought you were better than that.
Fabinho's hand /arm was in a natural position when he was falling, ie trying to brak his fall, Dias's hand/arm was in a natural position when he was jumping, trying to get height. You can't get height with your arms down by your side.Handballs aren’t about “clear errors”. There are guidelines that determine what is a penalty.
Dias had his arm raised, which made his body artificially bigger, therefore it was a penalty.
Fabinho’s wasn't for two reasons. He headed it onto his arm that was breaking his fall.
It wasn’t even fully looked at as we scored before the ball went out of play.
Leave it out, you are sounding like a WUM. We already have one of them on this thread, I thought you were better than that.