VAR thread 2022/23

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Here is the relevant part of Law 12 regarding goalkeeper having control of the ball.

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Alison didn't appear to be in control of the ball when Haaland challenged for it, although I'm sure the PiGMOL/PL will be able to find an out of context single frame that shows otherwise.
 
I've posted this elsewhere today but the clearest decision of the day was not reviewed.
Salah goal should have been disallowed for handball. A series of clips prove it 100%.
Here is a flavour:



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That's quite damming from that angle. They will argue that you can't see if it actually touches his arm (before anyone quotes me and gets abusive - that's not what I think, it clearly "evidences" hand ball to me) and therefore no reason to overturn the goal.
 
I’ve read on here that MOTD stated that it ‘didn’t matter about the shirt pull as they’d have disallowed it for the challenge on the keeper’. Think about that for a minute. Taylor goes to monitor and, not unreasonably given his pre game instructions, has awarded the goal. City go wild, celebrations all round. Meanwhile, the VAR tells him to go to the monitor as there might be a foulon Alison. He goes over, looks again and disallows the goal. I think the whole world would likely have imploded!!
 
I’ve read on here that MOTD stated that it ‘didn’t matter about the shirt pull as they’d have disallowed it for the challenge on the keeper’. Think about that for a minute. Taylor goes to monitor and, not unreasonably given his pre game instructions, has awarded the goal. City go wild, celebrations all round. Meanwhile, the VAR tells him to go to the monitor as there might be a foulon Alison. He goes over, looks again and disallows the goal. I think the whole world would likely have imploded!!
He would have viewed the second challenge on the monitor had he deemed the first wasn’t a foul.
 
I’ve read on here that MOTD stated that it ‘didn’t matter about the shirt pull as they’d have disallowed it for the challenge on the keeper’. Think about that for a minute. Taylor goes to monitor and, not unreasonably given his pre game instructions, has awarded the goal. City go wild, celebrations all round. Meanwhile, the VAR tells him to go to the monitor as there might be a foulon Alison. He goes over, looks again and disallows the goal. I think the whole world would likely have imploded!!

It obviously wouldn’t have worked like that though. If he’d been happy with the first one, VAR would obviously have told him to then look at the second one at the same time.
 
Alison didn't appear to be in control of the ball when Haaland challenged for it, although I'm sure the PiGMOL/PL will be able to find an out of context single frame that shows otherwise.

Well they didn’t really bother highlighting it much on Match of the Day, as it was irrelevant in the end. But it did look like he had the ball trapped between his hand and the ground to me, which would make it a foul with what you’ve reproduced.
 
I am new to this forum. I am a long time reader but a first time poster. I just want you to know how grateful I am to read your posts about VAR. I have been following this topic for years and reading your comments has helped me cope with VAR on many occasions. It is good to know that there are fans like me who see how devastating VAR has been to football. I've just been driven up a wall with VAR and I don't know where else to turn to voice my concerns about the future of the sport. So I finally decided to sign up to this forum because this seems to be a place where I can talk about VAR and perhaps we can explore what can be done about it. We're all fed up by VAR, but has anyone really thought about what we can do about it to save our sport from the VAR problem?

One pressing matter that comes to mind involves the upcoming FIFA Presidential Election in March 2023. I don't if any of you have given this much thought, but the FIFA President Mr. Infantino is seeking re-election for a 3rd term. He ran unopposed in 2019 and unless there is a candidate planning to run against him this time that I don't know about, it seems that he may be about to run unopposed yet again which is unconscionable given how much of a failure VAR has been under his administration. In 2019, it was somewhat understandable that there was no opposition. But 4 years later, it's very apparent by now that VAR isn't working and is fundamentally broken, and won't ever be a benefit to the sport no matter how hard they try to twist and change the fundamental and basic laws of the sport in order to as they say make VAR more applicable.

The VAR problem continues to be an existential crisis to the health, stability and integrity of the sport. I don't know about you, but I don't see how the sport can suffer another 4 years of this VAR madness with Infantino running FIFA with his VAR agenda. This longer this goes on, the more difficult it may be to remove it from the sport. And I'm not sure we can wait until 2027 for this VAR problem to be resolved.

It is my understanding that the deadline for an opposition candidate to run for FIFA President is quickly approaching. Apparently a opposition candidate needs to register to run 4 months before the vote in March 2023. I just can't fathom Mr. Infantino running unopposed yet again as he seeks a 3rd term given colossal failure of his pet project VAR. Is there anyone that you know in England or anywhere in Europe brave enough to run for the FIFA Presidency in March? Shouldn't there be an urgency from the fans to support a candidate to save football from VAR and eliminate it once and for all, and return the sport to its roots? How can we do that with the current FIFA President in place, the person responsible for VAR from the beginning who's fully invested in maintaining this system at all costs?

The grassroots fans should be desperate for an opposition candidate to run against him in March, to be the voice of the people. Is there anyone you know who would consider running for FIFA President on an anti-VAR, grassroots agenda? Even if the campaign is ultimately unsuccessful, and Infantino wins re-election, at least an opposition candidate running on ending VAR would provide some resistance to VAR, that would at the very least plant the seeds of doubt on VAR's stranglehold on the future of football and perhaps set the stage for 2027 for new President to run on eliminating VAR as Infantino would not be eligible for a 4th term.

If there is still time for an opposition candidate to emerge and register in time for the deadline to challenge Infantino for the FIFA throne in March, to make this upcoming FIFA election about VAR and the future of football, I think we should do everything in our power to find that brave voice that is willing to represent the people who long for a return to the Beautiful Game.

Please consider my request to seek out anyone with a genuine passion for the sport who would take it upon themself to be the hero in this story, to fight against the VAR-man Infantino in this upcoming FIFA election to reclaim the essence of football. For all of us who long for the classics, for that natural flow to return to matches, without the unwelcome stoppages and interruptions of VAR. To be able to celebrate goals once again, it's so fundamentally important to the psyche of the fan. We've been robbed of that joy for far too long. This must be a priority and it must be something we are willing to fight for. There's gotta be someone out there, in England, in Europe, who is willing to run for FIFA President in March and fight for the future of the sport, for all of us.

Please help save our Beautiful Game and seek out a candidate to run for FIFA President and put an end this VAR atrocity once and for all.
I nominate @BlueHammer85.

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter. I think FIFA representatives are elected by the FAs of the member countries. That's a heck of a lot of lobbying to get through, and by all accounts, they vote for the candidate that offers them the most, or the best incentive. I doubt fans view will be taken into account in the election process.
 
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