VAR thread 2022/23

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With United and Liverpool and VAR

 

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You don’t believe they aren’t.

Could you link me to an article criticising the Dias handball?

Of course the laws aren't being applied consistently.

Man City issued 'harsh' verdict by pundit as controversy analysed

Football Insider has been told by Paul Robinson that the decision to penalise Man City defender Ruben Dias for handball in the Community Shield was "harsh".

www.footballinsider247.com

Former Man City defender questions Liverpool penalty after 'unlucky' handball

Liverpool won their first Community Shield since 2006 thanks to goals from Trent Alexander-Arnold, Mohamed Salah and Darwin Nunez

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

 

[its grim up north]

With all due respect, I was talking about the Premier League.

I can’t comment much on a blurred still from another jurisdiction.

What they will say though is that it’s hit his hand outside of a natural silhouette and therefore a penalty will be given, in all likelihood.

As long as handball decisions are consistent, the ruling minutiae doesn’t matter to me.

Consistency, that's the word. That's what we all want. But best of luck with that one.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

You’ve been consistent in your support of VAR, and I think for the most part proven right. It was a shitshow at the beginning and early criticisms were justified. It works a lot better now, which you predicted. No way now I’d want to go back to the non VAR days, where refs would would have a much greater license to kill us.

It is getting better for sure. But, for me, not to the extent that it pays off on the downsides. The offside issue encapsulates it for me. It’s not accurate but we are told the calls are black and white.

Rewind to when VAR was being introduced and we were told it would be a tool to help Refs make better decisions. Letting a ref look at the video in slo mo for 30 secs does that. If you are getting to the stage of a team of 6 hundreds of miles away are drawing lines on armpits and toe nails then their original call was fine

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Of course the laws aren't being applied consistently.

Man City issued 'harsh' verdict by pundit as controversy analysed

Football Insider has been told by Paul Robinson that the decision to penalise Man City defender Ruben Dias for handball in the Community Shield was "harsh".

www.footballinsider247.com

Former Man City defender questions Liverpool penalty after 'unlucky' handball

Liverpool won their first Community Shield since 2006 thanks to goals from Trent Alexander-Arnold, Mohamed Salah and Darwin Nunez

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

Thanks, so a former city player and one other pundit questioned it.

Hardly a backlash. Was the Liverpool Echo’s headline “How Dias’ handball helped Liverpool win their first trophy of the season?”

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Consistency, that's the word. That's what we all want. But best of luck with that one.

Having VAR adds to the consistency though, not takes away.

Its not perfect as it can’t be, but it gets more decisions right than before, so is an overall positive on the game.

 

[Gazza]

You not enjoying football these last few seasons ?

Well, after 38 years of having a season ticket I gave it up the second season after VAR was introduced. I find, as a fan I'm less in the dark about what's happening during a VAR break whilst watching in the comfort of my own home.
So, in answer to your question - not as much.

 

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Thanks, so a former city player and one other pundit questioned it.

Hardly a backlash. Was the Liverpool Echo’s headline “How Dias’ handball helped Liverpool win their first trophy of the season?”

No pleasing some people is there.

You said 'Could you link me to an article criticising the Dias handball?'

I sent you two articles and I also remember hearing a couple of commentators saying it either wouldn't be a penalty or it was harsh. The point still stands that VAR hasn't done for the game what fans thought it would. If you think it has then you need to form a 'VAR is great' society with BlueHammer85.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No pleasing some people is there.

You said 'Could you link me to an article criticising the Dias handball?'

I sent you two articles and I also remember hearing a couple of commentators saying it either wouldn't be a penalty or it was harsh. The point still stands that VAR hasn't done for the game what fans thought it would. If you think it has then you need to form a 'VAR is great' society with BlueHammer85.

Indeed, one from a source that is mocked daily on here and another that is read by a few on Twitter.

99% of people were happy that it was a penalty. A few blinkered a City fans and a couple of pundits had a bit of a moan about it, but not really as they were just saying it to be quoted.

VAR isn’t great, but it helps get more decisions right than happened before it.

 

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Indeed, one from a source that is mocked daily on here and another that is read by a few on Twitter.

99% of people were happy that it was a penalty. A few blinkered a City fans and a couple of pundits had a bit of a moan about it, but not really as they were just saying it to be quoted.

VAR isn’t great, but it helps get more decisions right than happened before it.

Next time you ask me for any documentation you better put your list of caveats of what I can link to. At least we agree VAR isn't great and it is still making too many mistakes for it to be anything other than shit.