VAR thread 2022/23

[The Future’s Blue!]

We still haven't got to the bottom of the VAR 'Match commander' question. The PL say there isn't one, but SOMEONE decides who sees what.

There definitely is a match commander and this was stated at the outset of VAR. I think the original one was Neil Swarbrick who was peddled out to great fanfare from PGMOL.

 

[mat]

I thought this season we could hear the conversations between the ref and VAR like in cricket and rugby after the game had finished.

Or am I imagining that?

I was under that impression too.

Must be too difficult to edit the convos.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

There definitely is a match commander and this was stated at the outset of VAR. I think the original one was Neil Swarbrick who was peddled out to great fanfare from PGMOL.

VAR shambles as chiefs with NO football experience 'overruling referees at Stockley Park'

VAR commanders with no authority in the Premier League are astonishingly over-ruling referees, it has been claimed. Former ref Mark Halsey has learned VAR Andy Madley was told by commander Adam Car…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

VAR shambles as chiefs with NO football experience 'overruling referees at Stockley Park'

VAR commanders with no authority in the Premier League are astonishingly over-ruling referees, it has been claimed. Former ref Mark Halsey has learned VAR Andy Madley was told by commander Adam Car…

www.thesun.co.uk

This has obviously been bedunked as the PL have said so.

When Swarbrick retired as a ref, he was taken on as the VAR Implementation Officer and during an interview I remember him saying that he, or another, would be in Shockley Park to oversee the VAR.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

This has obviously been bedunked as the PL have said so.

When Swarbrick retired as a ref, he was taken on as the VAR Implementation Officer and during an interview I remember him saying that he, or another, would be in Shockley Park to oversee the VAR.

Debunked because the PL 'said so'...

Halsey has also made accusations that he'd been asked to alter his match report to say he hadn't seen an incident so that a retrospective Red card could be issued.

Somebody is lying.

 

[old blue]

At the start of last season.

When has the benefit of the doubt been applied to us? Or even elsewhere, is it just coincidence that they were the first to profit from the new rule after a full season.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Debunked because the PL 'said so'...

Halsey has also made accusations that he'd been asked to alter his match report to say he hadn't seen an incident so that a retrospective Red card could be issued.

Somebody is lying.

I’d trust what Halsey has said, especially as the accusations he came out with were never put to the lawyers by PGMOL/PL.

They may not directly refer to the likes of Swarbrick as the match commander, but there’s definitely somebody there pulling the strings

 

[Blue Mist]

If I had the time I'd put in a FOI request for the answers to those questions. I would also ask to see calibration certificates and fault logs, especially relating to the Dipper's game where VAR didn't seem to be working when they appeared to guess on the TAA handball and Salah offside decision.

And as long as there is no transparency there will be no trust.

 

[Blue Mist]

Because you haven’t bothered trying to find out the answers?

The answer to everything you ask is freely available and easily found.

I beg to differ, one site, PremierLeague.com is so confusing I gave up. It seems to suggest 5 cameras 2 of which are on the 18 yard lines are used for offsides.
Another site said there were 33! These include slow motion and super slow motion cameras.
Espn state that var can only use the cameras supplied by the broadcaster.
So thank you for your rather smug, condescending answer but it didn't help.

 

[hertsblue]

So, offside is still subjective?

Got it.

Seems so, there have been goals ruled offside for the tiniest margins inc Toneys goal for Brentford at Fulham last weekend so no surprise this new rule went in the Rags favour where it’s been ignored in other games. Only surprise is how quiet the Dippers and Media have been over it. If we scored that it would still be headline news