VAR thread 2022/23

[Stephen230]

When has the benefit of the doubt been applied to us? Or even elsewhere, is it just coincidence that they were the first to profit from the new rule after a full season.

United have conceded two goals recently, one in April and one already this season that would have been ruled out for off side before they changed it.

 

[KentBlue]

I think Ratboy has more say at Sky than most. He's not just a pundit, he's a permanent fixture there and all rag games he appears to be the one calling the shots. Definitely something untoward going on with him and Sky.

 

[crazyg]

This. Any attempt at a challenge at knee height when the opponent is running at full speed is endangering the opponent's safety, imo. It's a horrible precedent to set, and the next guy who gets fucked over may not be so lucky. De Bruyne certainly wasn't impressed. He knows.

Not setting out to "do him" isn't much of a defence either.

There was a similar incident on 12 November 1975 and the player committing the "foul" wasn't even booked.
The tackle effectively ended the career of the player fouled.
I remember it to this day and am still seething.

 

[Stephen230]

I beg to differ, one site, PremierLeague.com is so confusing I gave up. It seems to suggest 5 cameras 2 of which are on the 18 yard lines are used for offsides.
Another site said there were 33! These include slow motion and super slow motion cameras.
Espn state that var can only use the cameras supplied by the broadcaster.
So thank you for your rather smug, condescending answer but it didn't help.

I apologise for coming across as condescending. It wasn’t my intention but appreciate it does across that way. I didn’t join this forum to cause arguments or antagonise people for the sake of it.

 

[City Mike 1969]

I apologise for coming across as condescending. It wasn’t my intention but appreciate it does across that way. I didn’t join this forum to cause arguments or antagonise people for the sake of it.

Why not? What's wrong with you??

 

[crazyg]

If you're off the ground, you're out of control. That's it.
As soon as you leave the ground, your body is bound by the Laws of Motion, and ,if you'r jumping, by the laws of ballistics. Unless you are able to counteract the inertia of your movement, or collide with another body, your own body will continue in the same trajectory you started with. You cannot control that.
You cannae change the laws of physics, Captain.

 

[DrBlueBob]

If you're off the ground, you're out of control. That's it.
As soon as you leave the ground, your body is bound by the Laws of Motion, and ,if you'r jumping, by the laws of ballistics. Unless you are able to counteract the inertia of your movement, or collide with another body, your own body will continue in the same trajectory you started with. You cannot control that.
You cannae change the laws of physics, Captain.

Every time you run at some point your feet are off the ground. Every time you jump your feet are off the ground. It is a fallacy to say that you are out of control. Obviously you are constrained by physics but I can certainly jump fairly accurately from one point to another so I imagine top level athletes can also.

That does not preclude the reckless sort of lunges that should, and often do end up in red cards but just having both feet off the ground isn't reckless in and as of itself.

Unless it's walking football of course.

 

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

What is the defined tolerance for offside now and how is it measured.
I am an engineer and on a drawing I would add a tolerance say for a linear dimension. So 300cm +\0-.5cm means that when the inspector measures the manufactured part it has to be 300cm long however the tolerance means it can be anywhere between 299.5cm to 300.5cm and not .01 of a cm more or less than the tolerance dimensions.
The reason I am boring the tits off my avid readers is to clarify that a tolerance has to have a number and it is either in tolerance or it is a fail.
When St Marcus was ”within tolerance” how was that measured?
What is the tolerance as to what is allowed?
Unless I see a measurement for what the tolerance is then I think we are being taken for cunts by PGMOL as it is open to being subject to the VAR opinion and nothing specific other than shirt colour or shade of red.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

What is the defined tolerance for offside now and how is it measured.
I am an engineer and on a drawing I would add a tolerance say for a linear dimension. So 300cm +\0-.5cm means that when the inspector measures the manufactured part it has to be 300cm long however the tolerance means it can be anywhere between 295.5cm to 300.5cm and not .01 of a cm more or less than the tolerance dimensions.
The reason I am boring the tits off my avid readers is to clarify that a tolerance has to have a number and it is either in tolerance or it is a fail.
When St Marcus was ”within tolerance” how was that measured?
What is the tolerance as to what is allowed?
Unless I see a measurement for what the tolerance is then I think we are being taken for cunts by PGMOL as it is open to being subject to the VAR opinion and nothing specific other than shirt colour or shade of red.

The tolerance is whatever they want it be to support the brand.

 

[Blue Mist]

I apologise for coming across as condescending. It wasn’t my intention but appreciate it does across that way. I didn’t join this forum to cause arguments or antagonise people for the sake of it.

@Stephen230 No problem, VAR is a touchy subject with some of us. We seem to do it different to Europe and we do it in virtual secrecy. I have no problem with VAR when used correctly, awarding Newcastle the goal for instance but...............