VAR thread 2022/23

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The blue phantom said:
The weird thing is most clubs in the PL especially the the Scousers think WE are the beneficiary's of Var, Ref's and all the t.v networks. We've bought the lot as we constantly get the decisions. Other clubs Forums are full of City have the Refs in their pocket threads.
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Tried making this point , practically all clubs forums think VAR is corrupt and against them - everyone is getting tied in knots and just screaming corruption at every bad decision.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Thanks for your input. I value your opinion highly, especially after you showed your reasoning during the Brexit debate.

University of Life graduate.
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No worries.

You are acting like a twat with a poster who really doesn’t deserve the sarcastic responses you gave him.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Tried making this point , practically all clubs forums think VAR is corrupt and against them - everyone is getting tied in knots and just screaming corruption at every bad decision.
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Of course, it’s all incompetence, nothing more, and will continue to be merely incompetence, even if it becomes a feature of every match in the future.

After all, the league have no power whatsoever to address the incompetence or make officiating (including VAR) more transparent. If they could, they would, but they can’t. The incompetence is natural law; human error—no matter how prevalent or egregious or seemingly mitigatible to reasonable observers—cannot be fixed.

It is a force of nature in football.

Inmutable. Unassailable. Eternal.

We fans must except this and understand the league are powerless to oppose it.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Of course, it’s all incompetence, nothing more, and will continue to be merely incompetence, even if it becomes a feature of every match in the future.

After all, the league have no power whatsoever to address the incompetence or make officiating (including VAR) more transparent. If they could, they would, but they can’t. The incompetence is natural law; human error—no matter how prevalent or egregious or seemingly mitigatible to reasonable observers—cannot be fixed.

It is a force of nature in football.

Inmutable. Unassailable. Eternal.

We fans must except this and understand the league are powerless to oppose it.
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What is it manipulating? City league wins? United being shite?
 
The blue phantom said:
The weird thing is most clubs in the PL especially the the Scousers think WE are the beneficiary's of Var, Ref's and all the t.v networks. We've bought the lot as we constantly get the decisions. Other clubs Forums are full of City have the Refs in their pocket threads.
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That’s because, over 380 games each season, there are so many on-pitch officials’ and VAR decisions made that whoever wanted to bring up where a rival team of theirs has been given the benefit of the doubt or plainly wrong decisions in their favour or where fans don’t really know the LOTG so are the ones are talking about things in an incorrect way to back up their point; they have loads to choose from.

Every set of fans has an abundance of things to choose from and so do their rivals in their direction.

Liverpool fans can pull up loads of decisions that have gone in our favour over the years. Two off the top of my head are:



www.independent.co.uk

Jurgen Klopp: How on earth was Vincent Kompany not sent off?

Kompany was booked for bringing down Mohamed Salah in what appeared to be both a dangerously high challenge and a denial of a goalscoring opportunity
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

And we can bring up loads ourselves.

And clubs down the bottom can point to all the top sides to show how we’re all favoured compared to them. And it be shown in every league in the country, in every league in Europe…
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Whilst simultaneously rectifying other avoidable incompetence.
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Nah, continued incompetence without attempt to avoid or mitigate it is how it has to be. There are no alternatives. No one has ever developed ways to address human error. And it’s certainly not an example of wilful decisions not to address the incompetence.

After all, that would show a pattern of malfeasance and potential corruption, and that is unheard of in football.

No, it all miraculously balances out in the end.
 
Eds said:
It’s blatantly obvious to all on here bar two, or has @Blue Mist changed sides, that there is something acutely wrong with the why VAR is being used. The concept is fine, it’s the people using it that’s the problem. Interesting that Oliver, when told to go to the screen yesterday, stuck to his decision despite it being wrong in the first place. Leeds penalty, Newcastle goal both should have been given and having allowed the West Ham goal it shouldn’t have been overturned. Villa goal isn’t up for discussion as the ref blew and it was a couple of se ones later the shot came in, by which time defenders had stopped and Eddie just waved at it. It is every week that it is happening yet nobody says a word about how shit it is. We have pundits who don’t even know the LOTG preaching to us about how wonderful it is, are they just as stupid.bWith each passing week the ‘brand’ is becoming more like WWE. Transparency is the first thing that should happen so the conversations can be heard, What’s there to hide? Corruption and cheating right in front of our eyes.
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@Eds yes I have changed sides. I always wanted to be Che Guevara orJames Dean. Refusing to conform and picking a fight just for the sake of it. So now I believe in var.
8 matches yesterday, Only 4 major fuck ups, one in each match. I think that pretty good going.






:-)
 
SebastianBlue said:
Nah, continued incompetence without attempt to avoid or mitigate it is how it has to be. There are no alternatives. No one has ever developed ways to address human error. And it’s certainly not an example of wilful decisions not to address the incompetence.

After all, that would show a pattern of malfeasance and potential corruption, and that is unheard of in football.

No, it all miraculously balances out in the end.
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I’m kind of with you with VAR in cup competitions where one result can define who wins and loses.

VAR has decreased the number of incorrect decisions but cannot irradiate them. No system can where subjectivity exists.

There’s potential corruption in virtually every single thing in life, so I don’t see how it’s such a big thing regarding VAR, which makes it harder to secretly manipulate games.
 
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