VAR thread 2022/23

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Send any Liverpool fan a pic of his “handball” and they instantly reply with Rodri at Goodison. it’s not just Klopp’s brain where we live Rent free

I don’t interact in banter with other fans. It’s wholly tiresome and repetitive whilst not addressing any point either side try to make.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I don’t interact in banter with other fans. It’s wholly tiresome and repetitive whilst not addressing any point either side try to make.

A bit like your posts on here then ..... ;)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

A bit like your posts on here then ..... ;)

Yeah, because they’re not all in the groupthink, so I get called out for it.

I’m big enough to stand by what I believe, rather than resort to calling other fans murderers etc.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Here is the relevant part of Law 12 regarding goalkeeper having control of the ball.

Exactly what does the last part of the first bullet point mean?

"... unless the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save."

I have no idea what they are trying to say.

 

[Paladin]

Who says Taylor had a choice ? Refs 99 times out of a hundred do what var 'suggests'. There is a reason why they do.

A referee last week was asked to look at an incident on the monitor and he stuck with his original decision. He was much less experienced than Taylor. As I say, I think Taylor is weak in high pressure situations. He caved in to player pressure and fan pressure when he disallowed the goal.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

A referee last week was asked to look at an incident on the monitor and he stuck with his original decision. He was much less experienced than Taylor. As I say, I think Taylor is weak in high pressure situations. He caved in to player pressure and fan pressure when he disallowed the goal.

Probably because he cant be truthful because he gets hounded by plastic fans everyday calling him a **** and threatening his family….

 

[Paladin]

Did VAR do it’s job and CSI investigate Salad bowls LA Lakers esq ball control to help him score?

There is nothing definitive on Salah's potential handball. I didn't notice any pause for a check though. They say all goals are checked. Surely the goal warranted proper scrutiny like the Mahrez handball midweek.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Well they didn’t really bother highlighting it much on Match of the Day, as it was irrelevant in the end. But it did look like he had the ball trapped between his hand and the ground to me, which would make it a foul with what you’ve reproduced.

I thought that the keeper had to have both hands on the ball?
Ask yourself this - if Phils' goal had been scored by the dippers, would it have been disallowed?
(Answers on a postcard to
VAR panel
Stockley Park).

 

[Grassland Blue]

It is clear that the Prem got the result they wanted.
(With Mr. Wenger standing in as the var?)

 

[Grassland Blue]

It wasn’t a handball

Controlled the ball with his arm

 

[Stephen230]

I thought that the keeper had to have both hands on the ball?
Ask yourself this - if Phils' goal had been scored by the dippers, would it have been disallowed?
(Answers on a postcard to
VAR panel
Stockley Park).

Well you thought wrong. And while nobody expects every single football fan to read the laws of the game from cover to cover before they offer an opinion, it goes some way to explaining why referees rarely fail to stick to their original decision when advised by VAR to reconsider. Because despite popular opinion they both do know the laws of the game.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Controlled the ball with his arm

 

[stonerblue]

Fair reply
You've answered your first question straight away, so yes. It was a foul. correct decision

The responsibility should lie with the ref not VAR, if he deems that not much of a foul in the context of the game then it's on him to ignore the VAR and it's on him to make the ultimate decision when seeing it on the monitor.

I personally think there is a difference of allowing some argy bargy go throughout the game but when it leads to a goal then the correct decision has to take precedent, think we've seen that in the history of the game - a couple of challenges go unpunished in the middle of the pitch or waved play on, but in the area it's given a penalty no matter what (for example)

I'm definitely in favour for comm's/transparency argument - not sure it would solve much but still be good to know what was said.

Finally. 'The responsibility should be with the ref'.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Finally. 'The responsibility should be with the ref'.

Absolutely, all I ask if they get a bit of help for decisions the ref has missed or if the ref wants to see it for himself on the monitor.
Sounds easy enough, wish it was.

 

[shroom]

The NBA's Jimmy Butler engages VAR for a ruling ...

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Finally. 'The responsibility should be with the ref'.

'Should' yes.

I've seen more than a few occasions when decisions appear to have been made by someone other than the referee on the field.

 

[mat]

Sundays match commander was G.Neville.

 

[BlueHammer85]

'Should' yes.

I've seen more than a few occasions when decisions appear to have been made by someone other than the referee on the field.

If the referee did not see a really obvious decisions - would that be justified?

 

[SebastianBlue]

This is the instant he handles the ball, which is obscured by this video (hence why it is being used by Liverpool supporters to “prove” there was no hand ball). You can see in the angle behind Salah when the balls trajectory changes in to his path rather than away from it (which was the initial angle of exit from the bounce).

Why use a poorer quality video from only one odd angle to try to prove a point made with a video from every conceivable angle?

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

The game is bent, just accept it. They got the result they wanted….keeps pool relevant