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Throw in Toure aswell!
zapbranny said:Villa fan here.
Wanted to point a few things out which make the £20M offer pretty irrelevant, even if that probably is his market worth.
Milner wasn't exactly cheap, Villa paid £12m for him from Newcastle after being after him for nearly two seasons. Is £8M quid great profit on someone with a promising future?
He has two years left on his contract, so its not as if he is on a freeany time soon.
He is still only 24 depsite being around forever and is English (new homegrown rule).
Has just played his first season in centre mid, might improve. He is going to the World Cup, if he has a good tournament he could be worth even more, hence why a lot of teams don't sell before.
One of the reasons he wanted to come to Villa was stability, it was only here he started and finished a season with the same manager. Would he get that at City? Do you think Mancini will be in charge at the end of next season?
He is different to most footballers, doesn't drink or go to trendy hotspots, not particulalry flashy, he didn't have an agent (not sure if he still doesn't) and used to get the PFA to assist him. Not sure the Wealth that City have is a huge attraction for a guy like him.
Is more likely to prefer an established Champ League team like Utd or Chelsea, with both supposedly interested.
Has huge respect for O'neil, he has brought him on and got him into the England side and has been good for his career. New manager would be more uncertain.
Known to get on with his team mates in a young Villa side.
As you can see all these factors add up to £20M not really worth a great deal.
Reasons why they would sell.
a) A Big offer, maybe around the £30M mark (after all City have made a rod for their own back playing £24M for Lescott).
b) O'Neil thinks that Fabian Delph is ready to step up (got the attributes to be better than Milner)
c) Milner kicks up a fuss (unlikely for his character).
There you are thats my perspective on it and I definately would have predicted the £20M bid being turned down. What do you think?
zapbranny said:Villa fan here.
Wanted to point a few things out which make the £20M offer pretty irrelevant, even if that probably is his market worth.
Milner wasn't exactly cheap, Villa paid £12m for him from Newcastle after being after him for nearly two seasons. Is £8M quid great profit on someone with a promising future?
He has two years left on his contract, so its not as if he is on a freeany time soon.
He is still only 24 depsite being around forever and is English (new homegrown rule).
Has just played his first season in centre mid, might improve. He is going to the World Cup, if he has a good tournament he could be worth even more, hence why a lot of teams don't sell before.
One of the reasons he wanted to come to Villa was stability, it was only here he started and finished a season with the same manager. Would he get that at City? Do you think Mancini will be in charge at the end of next season?
He is different to most footballers, doesn't drink or go to trendy hotspots, not particulalry flashy, he didn't have an agent (not sure if he still doesn't) and used to get the PFA to assist him. Not sure the Wealth that City have is a huge attraction for a guy like him.
Is more likely to prefer an established Champ League team like Utd or Chelsea, with both supposedly interested.
Has huge respect for O'neil, he has brought him on and got him into the England side and has been good for his career. New manager would be more uncertain.
Known to get on with his team mates in a young Villa side.
As you can see all these factors add up to £20M not really worth a great deal.
Reasons why they would sell.
a) A Big offer, maybe around the £30M mark (after all City have made a rod for their own back playing £24M for Lescott).
b) O'Neil thinks that Fabian Delph is ready to step up (got the attributes to be better than Milner)
c) Milner kicks up a fuss (unlikely for his character).
There you are thats my perspective on it and I definately would have predicted the £20M bid being turned down. What do you think?
samharris said:And we,ve just bought (jan) Adam Johnson for 6 mill...are you really telling us that James is worth 20 million more.....ah doont fink soo.
Should just leave it a year til his contract has got 1 year left then sign him for half the price
zapbranny said:If that was the case do you think he would he go to City if the Rags were then in a position to afford him?
zapbranny said:Should just leave it a year til his contract has got 1 year left then sign him for half the price
Hold on, that £12m is with the City premium on it. Who says we will still be in for him next year? I said near enough half anyway.
But....seeing as you are basing it on losing a 1/3 of the value you would be willing to see him go for £15-17m and lose out on £8-10m for the sake of having 1 more season out of him? (I am assuming he will go for £25m which is likely to be the next bid.)
And wait....you can speak for Milner himself? Amazing..... It is all down to what the player wants to do.
SamTheGuru said:Hold on, that £12m is with the City premium on it. Who says we will still be in for him next year?
But....seeing as you are basing it on losing a 1/3 of the value you would be willing to see him go for £15-17m and lose out on £8-10m for the sake of having 1 more season out of him? (I am assuming he will go for £25m which is likely to be the next bid.)
And wait....you can speak for Milner himself? Amazing..... It is all down to what the player wants to do.
zapbranny said:My guess is City move onto another target.