Voter ID is back and this time its serious.

From the same party that kicked off about Labours proposal for ''National Identity'' cards being too authoritarian and invasive now comes ''Voter ID'' ..... Excluding a huge tranche of people who (for whatever reason) dont hold a passport or driving licence (that was my nan ... couldn't drive at 90 years of age and had let her passport expire).

The only solution surely is to to provide a ''National Identity'' card ..........oh wait .

Next they'll be redrawing constituency boundaries.
 
ganganvince said:
Understand that, although thought someone entering the country illegally then applying for leave to remain would be classed as a refugee. Could be wrong as not as subject I am well versed in. The document I posted does also include asylum seekers.
www.scottishrefugeecouncil.org.uk

Right to vote - Scottish Refugee Council

www.scottishrefugeecouncil.org.uk www.scottishrefugeecouncil.org.uk
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If they are a refugee then they have a legal defence to any irregular or ilegal entry.

They only get approved refugee status after their claim has been accepted.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
From the same party that kicked off about Labours proposal for ''National Identity'' cards being too authoritarian and invasive now comes ''Voter ID'' ..... Excluding a huge tranche of people who (for whatever reason) dont hold a passport or driving licence (that was my nan ... couldn't drive at 90 years of age and had let her passport expire).

The only solution surely is to to provide a ''National Identity'' card ..........oh wait .

Next they'll be redrawing constituency boundaries.
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I think the proposal also includes being able to use a voter ID card.

NI has a system in place already, implemented in 2002 I believe, and if you compare NI voter turnout before and after it does suggest this measure reduced voter participation by up to 5% which can’t be good for democracy whichever section of the voter demographic is most likely to be impacted. So it’s a “no ta” from me.

Redrawing boundaries is absolutely right given the transient nature of people; MPs should broadly represent the same number of citizens so they need redrawing from time to time.
 
ganganvince said:
Wouldn't they gain refugee status whilst the application was processed?
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That's an asylum seeker. You have refugee status if you have been granted asylum. You can't be prosecuted for entering a country (that's signed up to the relevant UN treaties) illegally for the purpose of claiming asylum as long as you present yourself in a timely manner. There are also all sorts of other rules that basically say that a refugee should be treated the same as any other foreigner who is legally living in the country, so it's not exactly ridiculous to allow them to vote. After 5 years they have the right to apply for indefinite leave to remain, which basically allows them to vote anyway. It makes sense really. By that point, they're allowed to work and have to pay taxes, they're using the NHS, their kids are going to schools, so there's no reason they shouldn't have a vote in how stuff is run.
 
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