dannybcity
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JohnMaddocksAxe said:
Pipe down, we're in the Quarters.
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We Won !!! No Thanks To Hughes
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Pipe down, we're in the Quarters.
Putting words in peoples mouths is never the best way to win an argumentJohnMaddocksAxe said:I can't believe that people stick by this cop out week after week, spouting that "Hughes picks the right teams, what can he do if the players let him down".
Despite it happening time and time again.
I typed this to someone spouting this last night and, of course, received no reply. That's because there isn't one that justfies the stance.
If you think that a good/successful manager just gathers together a good bunch of players and sends them out onto the pitch, then I don't know what to say.
Never mind tactics, never mind preparing them in training so you can be confident of good performances 9 or 8 times out of ten, never mind motivating them, never mind changing things if certain tactics aren't working, never mind adapting to the opposition's gameplan, never mind making effective substitutions, never mind all that.
Just pretend it's Championship Manager and pick 11 players and blame it on them when they are shit (AGAIN!)
If you honestly hold that view, I am lost for words.
And when a team has made it through to the Q/Fs, and been unquestionnably the better team over both legs you wonder where this criticism is coming from.
The bounce of the ball / poor refereeing decisions cost us the game last night, that and an injury ravaged team, but overall we got through
City have a weakness playing away from home. I think we are committed to playing Robinho, and we're just not good enough to play 3 up front - unless the whole team is fit. We don't have that luxury at the moment
Your problem is that you want City to play like Champions League team now. It's never goin to happen, but we have seen incremental progress
JOGAMIGMOG said:look, we pissed the first half and were well in control until the last 6 minutes.
I really don't think that is the case. With half an hour to go they were piling the pressure on and it was fairly obvious we would have to change things around.
If it ended 0-0 we would have all been saying what a professional job we did on the night etc.
It didn't end up 0-0 though did it, and while I'm a firm believer in the end justifying the means that one was just a bit too close for my liking.
droylsdenblue
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I wasnt happy with the performance either but cup competitions are about results, its no good playing like Brazil and going out is it?
We are in the mix for the quarters, thats what matters most!
We are in the mix for the quarters, thats what matters most!
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dannybcity said:JohnMaddocksAxe said:I can't believe that people stick by this cop out week after week, spouting that "Hughes picks the right teams, what can he do if the players let him down".
Despite it happening time and time again.
I typed this to someone spouting this last night and, of course, received no reply. That's because there isn't one that justfies the stance.
If you think that a good/successful manager just gathers together a good bunch of players and sends them out onto the pitch, then I don't know what to say.
Never mind tactics, never mind preparing them in training so you can be confident of good performances 9 or 8 times out of ten, never mind motivating them, never mind changing things if certain tactics aren't working, never mind adapting to the opposition's gameplan, never mind making effective substitutions, never mind all that.
Just pretend it's Championship Manager and pick 11 players and blame it on them when they are shit (AGAIN!)
If you honestly hold that view, I am lost for words.
Pipe down, we're in the Quarters.
I am commenting on a theory put forward from several quaters on here regarding last night and numerous other results this season. I am reacting, not instigating.
Anyway, if you think that the fact we have struggled through to the quarter finals of a competition that the awful Rangers nearly won last year (that's Rangers where many think their manager is rubbish, by beating a Faroe team, a Cypriot team, 3 Danish teams and qualifying from a group where 3 out of 5 qualify is something that should be a magnificent acheievement, good enough to quell all debate, then we fundamentally disagree.
Not to mention that, the Schalke game apart (and maybe the PSG game), there hasn't been a result that was better than expected and we have consistently struggled against numerous second rate teams from second rate leagues
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JohnMaddocksAxe said:I can't believe that people stick by this cop out week after week, spouting that "Hughes picks the right teams, what can he do if the players let him down".
Despite it happening time and time again.
I typed this to someone spouting this last night and, of course, received no reply. That's because there isn't one that justfies the stance.
If you think that a good/successful manager just gathers together a good bunch of players and sends them out onto the pitch, then I don't know what to say.
Never mind tactics, never mind preparing them in training so you can be confident of good performances 9 or 8 times out of ten, never mind motivating them, never mind changing things if certain tactics aren't working, never mind adapting to the opposition's gameplan, never mind making effective substitutions, never mind all that.
Just pretend it's Championship Manager and pick 11 players and blame it on them when they are shit (AGAIN!)
If you honestly hold that view, I am lost for words.
It's a good post JMA, however you should just admit that (like me) you don't like MH purely becuase of his rag past ;-)
We topped the group, and no it's not a magnificent achievement, but at least something is going right, and it sounds like you're writing this good news story offJohnMaddocksAxe said:dannybcity said:JohnMaddocksAxe said:I can't believe that people stick by this cop out week after week, spouting that "Hughes picks the right teams, what can he do if the players let him down".
Despite it happening time and time again.
I typed this to someone spouting this last night and, of course, received no reply. That's because there isn't one that justfies the stance.
If you think that a good/successful manager just gathers together a good bunch of players and sends them out onto the pitch, then I don't know what to say.
Never mind tactics, never mind preparing them in training so you can be confident of good performances 9 or 8 times out of ten, never mind motivating them, never mind changing things if certain tactics aren't working, never mind adapting to the opposition's gameplan, never mind making effective substitutions, never mind all that.
Just pretend it's Championship Manager and pick 11 players and blame it on them when they are shit (AGAIN!)
If you honestly hold that view, I am lost for words.
Pipe down, we're in the Quarters.
I am commenting on a theory put forward from several quaters on here regarding last night and numerous other results this season. I am reacting, not instigating.
Anyway, if you think that the fact we have struggled through to the quarter finals of a competition that the awful Rangers nearly won last year (that's Rangers where many think their manager is rubbish, by beating a Faroe team, a Cypriot team, 3 Danish teams and qualifying from a group where 3 out of 5 qualify is something that should be a magnificent acheievement, good enough to quell all debate, then we fundamentally disagree.
Where are Spurs, Villa, Portsmouth??? Have we or have we not qualified for the Q/Finals? When was the last time we did that? Have we done it with an appalling run of injuries that has seen us play most of the season without 4 of our first-choice strikers. Where would Villa be in this League without Carew, Heskey and Agbonlahor? Nowhere
Marvin said:Where would Villa be in this League without Carew, Heskey and Agbonlahor? Nowhere
Where would Villa be with £120m to improve their squad.
I love the way people come on here and state that "the result is all that matters".
That getting to the quarters is everything, the result overrides any performance.
And you know what? I agree. The result is EVERYTHING.
But strangely enough, when City lose (or draw in Cpenhagen, for example) and I criticise, I'm assured that "we were the better team", that suddenly it's NOT the result that is everything... it's the performance!
Make your fucking minds up will you!!!
That getting to the quarters is everything, the result overrides any performance.
And you know what? I agree. The result is EVERYTHING.
But strangely enough, when City lose (or draw in Cpenhagen, for example) and I criticise, I'm assured that "we were the better team", that suddenly it's NOT the result that is everything... it's the performance!
Make your fucking minds up will you!!!