Welbeck vs Balotelli

Because your opinion is utter shit , what insight do you have, if he was that bad would he be playing for a team top of prem and be a international for Italy? So please share what makes you such an expert
 
nashark said:
blink922 said:
nashark said:
What ego's that?

And what has Fergie said about Balotelli?

Your mate Mourinho seems to echo what I've said about him:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3072874/Jose-Mourinho-warns-Manchester-City-over-Mario-Balotelli.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... telli.html</a>

But what does Mourinho know?

The problems between him and Mourinho were personal. Mario didn't like Jose and Jose didn't like Mario. If you can't see his obvious talent then you probably don't watch enough football, and no one can convince you otherwise.

I said he has a certain degree of talent.

But I, like Mourinho, wouldn't have him in my team because I don't think he is intelligent enough.

I'm guessing Mourinho doesn't watch enough football either.

I think a lot of people like Balotelli because he's made for the celebrity age. An age where people are more obsessed with the individual than the footballer, much the way women love their Heat magazine and all that crap. That's probably all there is to it, and I've just realised it's pointless even engaging in this debate because some won't see because they get off on all that wacky shit he does. I'll leave it there because I don't think anyone challenging my opinion has any insight at all.

Patronising, arrogant and wrong. Congratulations.
 
nashark said:
hecandothatfromrange said:
nashark said:
I've played with and against Welbeck and obviously at that level, he was a monster purely because of his athleticism. At this level, along with Balotelli, they're both pretty ordinary.

Balotelli has Welbeck's athleticism but when he cuts in on his right, Balotelli has one of the best shots in the game. Other than that, if you consider the importance of first touch and being able to pass, that's not enough - they're both substandard. They obviously have a certain bit of talent, but the game's no longer about athlete's. You can cheat the stats for a while, but you'll eventually get found out. Balotelli's lucky he has somebody who has a lot of faith in him in Mancini. I don't think many other top level managers would want anything to do with him.

What Welbeck has over Balotelli is reliability, work-rate and probably intelligence (though by no means is he a clever player), all drummed into him from being brought up in England.

Welbeck's more of a man as well, but Balotelli is more talented.

Nah, sorry but you're wrong. Balotelli's an intelligent player. Certainly considerably more intelligent than most strikers. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if his 'media eccentricity' was all fabricated. His talent has been cited by the most revered of football statesmen, Mourinho, Mancini, Fergie etc..... You obviously know more than them.

What's Fergie said about him?

Mourinho might have thought he has a certain degree of talent, as I think he does, but I very much doubt he thinks Balotelli is intelligent as he most clearly is not. He makes some good runs, but he has not got a brain for football. I seem to remember Balotelli hardly ever getting a game at Inter.



Jose said "he would be the worlds best player if I could get him to train at 50%. The problem is I can only get him to train at 25%"

He is one of the best players on the planet and he could be the best.
 
nashark said:
blink922 said:
nashark said:
What ego's that?

And what has Fergie said about Balotelli?

Your mate Mourinho seems to echo what I've said about him:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3072874/Jose-Mourinho-warns-Manchester-City-over-Mario-Balotelli.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... telli.html</a>

But what does Mourinho know?

The problems between him and Mourinho were personal. Mario didn't like Jose and Jose didn't like Mario. If you can't see his obvious talent then you probably don't watch enough football, and no one can convince you otherwise.

I said he has a certain degree of talent

But I, like Mourinho, wouldn't have him in my team because I don't think he is intelligent enough.

I'm guessing Mourinho doesn't watch enough football either.

I think a lot of people like Balotelli because he's made for the celebrity age. An age where people are more obsessed with the individual than the footballer, much the way women love their Heat magazine and all that crap. That's probably all there is to it, and I've just realised it's pointless even engaging in this debate because some won't see because they get off on all that wacky shit he does. I'll leave it there because I don't think anyone challenging my opinion has any insight at all.

The last sentence of your post suggests that you're an arrogant , autocratic prick.
 
anymore than 2sheiks said:
The way I see it is this: There are 2 forwards who are out there on their own, ronaldo and messi. There is a large group behind them, shrek, tevez, ibrahimovic, robinho, eto'o etc. Balotelli is almost in the 2nd group and could even join the top 2. Wellbeck will never get anywhere near the 2nd group because he simply doesn't have the talent. He's a typical over-rated English forward. Most overseas football fans would have never even heard of him.
Spot on!
 
Nashark, performances are hard to measure. But outcome of performances are not. Look at the amount of goals they have scored and level which they are playing at at the moment.

Balo is twice the player Welbeck is. You seem to be using you're bias opinion as you must know him in some way personally. Which is pathetic.
 
Davs 19 said:
nashark said:
blink922 said:
The problems between him and Mourinho were personal. Mario didn't like Jose and Jose didn't like Mario. If you can't see his obvious talent then you probably don't watch enough football, and no one can convince you otherwise.

I said he has a certain degree of talent

But I, like Mourinho, wouldn't have him in my team because I don't think he is intelligent enough.

I'm guessing Mourinho doesn't watch enough football either.

I think a lot of people like Balotelli because he's made for the celebrity age. An age where people are more obsessed with the individual than the footballer, much the way women love their Heat magazine and all that crap. That's probably all there is to it, and I've just realised it's pointless even engaging in this debate because some won't see because they get off on all that wacky shit he does. I'll leave it there because I don't think anyone challenging my opinion has any insight at all.

The last sentence of your post suggests that you're an arrogant , autocratic prick.

Very insightful.
 
nashark said:
Davs 19 said:
nashark said:
I said he has a certain degree of talent

But I, like Mourinho, wouldn't have him in my team because I don't think he is intelligent enough.

I'm guessing Mourinho doesn't watch enough football either.

I think a lot of people like Balotelli because he's made for the celebrity age. An age where

people are more obsessed with the individual than the footballer, much the way women love their Heat magazine and all that crap. That's probably all there is to it, and I've just realised it's pointless even engaging in this debate because some won't see because they get off on
all that wacky shit he does. I'll leave it there because I don't think anyone challenging my opinion has any insight at all.

The last sentence of your post suggests that you're an arrogant , autocratic prick.

Very insightful.

Lol......
 
why the f*ck is welbeck in the england side? He played half a season for a shite sunderland team last season , and has done f*ck all this season for yooonited . Ballotelli is trying to get in a side with over £150m worth of talent available up front , and is getting his fair share of games. Welbeck has got to oust hernandez (one season wonder) Berbatov (£32m waste of space) and Owen (sick note) so there is no comparison , if welbeck was in our squad he wouldnt even get a game before john guidetti who has already scored 5 goals in 8 games on loan at Feyenoord.
 

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