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West Ham Thread 2015/16
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Joey Barton having medical at WHU now, good signing
Not for me, a really poor signing who often costs his club vital points through his own stupidity.
Aye, another 6 pts for us :)Not for me, a really poor signing who often costs his club vital points through his own stupidity.
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Not for me, a really poor signing who often costs his club vital points through his own stupidity.
It's a strange one and probably means Nolan is off which is a shame, Maybe we just need some more experience and Barton can provide that - still a decent player on his day. Interesting times at the moment, welcome to the mix Barton.
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Aye, another 6 pts for us :)
Just the 3 last season :)
It's a strange one and probably means Nolan is off which is a shame, Maybe we just need some more experience and Barton can provide that - still a decent player on his day. Interesting times at the moment, welcome to the mix Barton.
Agree but the problem comes down to WHY you need experience. Football clubs want experienced players because they know how to handle themselves when the going gets tough unlike the younger ones who can be prone to being mentally weak, or at least that is the common justification.
The issue here is that Barton, despite being highly experienced, is mentally weak himself and at the most inopportune moment can get himself sent off, go flying in rashly to try and catch a player on the counter who he misses and leaves through on goal, or often just winds up people on the pitch in situations where they don't need to be wound up and the extra motivation that comes with that.
For all intents and purposes he is a child in a man's body so the only reason you'd take him is because of the football player rather than the football man that he is. Barton isn't a good enough football player to play for a West Ham looking at moving towards those top six spots and is a stopgap at very best. His Hollywood-type long balls are extremely frustrating for a team famous for playing it on the ground, he is defensively dumb ala Scott Parker rather than Michael Carrick and whilst he has a great strike on him, he doesn't offer enough of an attacking threat to be called somebody who would have a style built around them. He should have gone to Villa or somebody of that ilk, not only is he bad news off the pitch but I cannot see what he'd bring to you on it.
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Agree but the problem comes down to WHY you need experience. Football clubs want experienced players because they know how to handle themselves when the going gets tough unlike the younger ones who can be prone to being mentally weak, or at least that is the common justification.
The issue here is that Barton, despite being highly experienced, is mentally weak himself and at the most inopportune moment can get himself sent off, go flying in rashly to try and catch a player on the counter who he misses and leaves through on goal, or often just winds up people on the pitch in situations where they don't need to be wound up and the extra motivation that comes with that.
For all intents and purposes he is a child in a man's body so the only reason you'd take him is because of the football player rather than the football man that he is. Barton isn't a good enough football player to play for a West Ham looking at moving towards those top six spots and is a stopgap at very best. His Hollywood-type long balls are extremely frustrating for a team famous for playing it on the ground, he is defensively dumb ala Scott Parker rather than Michael Carrick and whilst he has a great strike on him, he doesn't offer enough of an attacking threat to be called somebody who would have a style built around them. He should have gone to Villa or somebody of that ilk, not only is he bad news off the pitch but I cannot see what he'd bring to you on it.
Neither can i to be honest. But i questioned Bilic selecting Zarate yesterday, a 16 year old and putting Tomkins right back. Football has a funny way of proving you wrong at times.
Neither can i to be honest. But i questioned Bilic selecting Zarate yesterday, a 16 year old and putting Tomkins right back. Football has a funny way of proving you wrong at times.
Ha, I'm not sure the "anything can happen" defence is a great one there mate!
Is this the last rumoured in for West Ham this year or are you still in the market?
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Ha, I'm not sure the "anything can happen" defence is a great one there mate!
Is this the last rumoured in for West Ham this year or are you still in the market?
Hopefully a couple more, Barton is an experienced squad player, a good passer, and cheap. It does make sense to get someone like that.