What has the UK become?

As ever its a juxtaposition of unrelated events

Its like

a/ why do foreigners get houses

b/ why do we have homeless veterans.

What is real though is that a vast majority of the people in this country are scared. We have people frightened to put the heating on, people scared about their next bill. Families worried about how they can feed their kids, never mind buy them new school shoes. Today at Asda i bought food from the cheap bin, times are hard and they could well get much worse. I am lucky I have a few quid in the bank, but many families do not and live from day to day hoping nothing goes wrong. If you have nothing spare and you have a major event pay out like the cooker breaking, you are in shit street pal, fucking big time because there is no spare cash. Inflation is ravaging the daily expenditure of normal people. My weekly food bill for me was about £50, today it was £68. I do not live a lavish lifestyle, I buy cheap.

As for your instances, of course I would help as much as I can to help those caught up in the natural disaster in Turkey, it might only be a Quid in a collecting tin, but it would be heartfelt. I would also hope all governments helped out in whatever they can.

The Ukraine is different, I have been to Kharkiv to see City play Shaktar and loved the place, the people were wonderful and it was one of my favourite ever away trips. I saw on TV a bomb hit the square where we had been drinking and it home hard that war is horrible.

However I am not comfortable with us sending Tanks there, I am not comfortable with us becoming involved in what I believe is an unwinnable war. It needs negotiation not bombs. It always pisses me off we can afford arms but have homeless veterans and people sitting in their houses scared to turn the heating on, kids going hungry, our NHS in crisis and a nation that feels it is falling apart.

I am also concerned Zelensky is not the benevolent freedom fighter he appears, he has banned trade unions and has an authoritarian streak.

Putin though is a danger to the world, he seems quite mad.

Good lord, Rasc!

You're a right winged nutter that needs banning of the tread for having the ability to separate the issues and expressing views on peaceful negotiations!

I'm sure you'll get the "insufficient privileges to post here" for having DARED to express wanting that avenue explored!!
 
You're a right winged nutter that needs banning of the tread for having the ability to separate the issues and expressing views on peaceful negotiations!
What is the fucking point in negotiating with the Russians when they don’t keep to any fucking agreement they sign? It’s absolute fucking insanity.
 
What is the fucking point in negotiating with the Russians when they don’t keep to any fucking agreement they sign? It’s absolute fucking insanity.

Have the Russians never come to the table before?

Cuba's a good example? I believe there was an a close call during the Cold War in the 80s, but I can't remember what the issue was, right now.

So with Blinken trying to hobble any type of attempt from China to broach peace, then what?

No attempt? March on to escalation and on to WWIII because you don't want to try...?

I don't understand the mindset, I really don't.
 
I don't understand the mindset, I really don't.
I’m not sure what’s difficult to understand about Ukraine giving up their nukes in exchange for a non-aggression undertaking from Russia.

Seems pretty straightforward to me. We give up our nukes, could you not invade us please.

There is no point in negotiating with a country that does that because they won’t keep to what they agreed. Whether they say they will do, isn’t worth a wank.

They only understand one language, I’m afraid.
 
Have the Russians never come to the table before?

Cuba's a good example? I believe there was an a close call during the Cold War in the 80s, but I can't remember what the issue was, right now.

So with Blinken trying to hobble any type of attempt from China to broach peace, then what?

No attempt? March on to escalation and on to WWIII because you don't want to try...?

I don't understand the mindset, I really don't.

Hilarious. The Chinese have as much influence as the Americans when it comes to broaching a peace. Namely, sod all.

The Chinese are currently bemoaning Russia deciding to station nukes in Belarus. This is days after a summit between the two countries in which both countries stressed there should be no nuclear escalation. Clearly, Russia listening to China on that particular point.
 
I’m not sure what’s difficult to understand about Ukraine giving up their nukes in exchange for a non-aggression undertaking from Russia.

Seems pretty straightforward to me. We give up our nukes, could you not invade us please.

There is no point in negotiating with a country that does that because they won’t keep to what they agreed. Whether they say they will do, isn’t worth a wank.

They only understand one language, I’m afraid.

Okay, so you vote for world war?

You should just say that as you haven't addressed the attempt at peace talks from China.

A whole post and you fixate on the last line as one to answer?

Interesting.
 
Hilarious. The Chinese have as much influence as the Americans when it comes to broaching a peace. Namely, sod all.

The Chinese are currently bemoaning Russia deciding to station nukes in Belarus. This is days after a summit between the two countries in which both countries stressed there should be no nuclear escalation. Clearly, Russia listening to China on that particular point.

What "hilarious" about attempting peace?

I'm sure you have 'heroes' that have tried attempt at peaceful solutions even if they failed but, ultimately, live on in history?

The point was 'trying'. However, you seem okay with things maybe getting worse at some point.
 

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