What has the UK become?

Bigga said:
What "hilarious" about attempting peace?

I'm sure you have 'heroes' that have tried attempt at peaceful solutions even if they failed but, ultimately, live on in history?

The point was 'trying'. However, you seem okay with things maybe getting worse at some point.
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What is hilarious is your belief that the Americans are nobbling China’s ‘peace plan’. They aren’t. The Americans and the Chinese are bystanders in this conflict. Your US centric view of the world is blinding you to reality in this matter as it does in others. The only two countries that can decide to cease or continue fighting are Russia and Ukraine. No one else. That is the reality, and not to be confused with ‘the reality’ to be found in the bowels of a YouTube video.
 
Bluemanc100 said:
Don’t forget the thousands of ignorant cnuts who leave their shit everywhere and the thousands of fucking woeful drivers on our roads…. You can’t blame the Tories for them
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I‘m afraid we can. A properly resourced refuse and litter collection service run by councils would do wonders for the look and feel of our respective areas. Sadly, budget cuts and merge funding has laid waste to them - pun intended.
 
BobKowalski said:
I‘m afraid we can. A properly resourced refuse and litter collection service run by councils would do wonders for the look and feel of our respective areas. Sadly, budget cuts and merge funding has laid waste to them - pun intended.
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HGV drivers stopping using the side of the roads as rubbish bins would help.

Socially, some people need to learn some fucking respect and not expect others to pick their shit up.
 
blueinsa said:
HGV drivers stopping using the side of the roads as rubbish bins would help.

Socially, some people need to learn some fucking respect and not expect others to pick their shit up.
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People see shit by the roadside, they are more inclined to dump their shit too. They see an unspoiled roadside, they are less inclined. Few want to be the arsehole that dumped their shit first. We like to hide, we like to follow. Set a good example then people will follow.

First, clean up the shit. Then provide places that people can put their shit. Finally, enforce the rules for the minority that will always dump their shit regardless.

All of this takes money, resources and effort at a local level. Absent these, you are left with moaning about it on a football forum.
 
BobKowalski said:
What is hilarious is your belief that the Americans are nobbling China’s ‘peace plan’. They aren’t. The Americans and the Chinese are bystanders in this conflict. Your US centric view of the world is blinding you to reality in this matter as it does in others. The only two countries that can decide to cease or continue fighting are Russia and Ukraine. No one else. That is the reality, and not to be confused with ‘the reality’ to be found in the bowels of a YouTube video.
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You keep pressing on for war, big man.

It's not your future you're going to be destroying.

Yours and mine are done.

That's the reality.
 
Bigga said:
You keep pressing on for war, big man.

It's not your future you're going to be destroying.

Yours and mine are done.

That's the reality.
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I’m not pressing on for anything, nor am I destroying anything. The blame for this conflict lies with Russia and Putin. I can support the country that was invaded and its citizens terrorised and killed, and I can support the supply of weapons to Ukraine to defend their homeland. That is the extent of what I can do.

If Ukraine sues for peace tomorrow then that is their choice, their future. It isn’t for me, or you, or anyone else to decide. I would hope that the peace they obtain is equitable, and if it isn’t then I understand the pressures and realities behind that peace.

What I do not do is insult Ukraine and the Ukrainians with ridiculous and insulting claims that Ukraine is simply a satrap to the US and its people forced to fight against its will. Those that peddle this idiocy I call out and treat with contempt.
 
BobKowalski said:
I’m not pressing on for anything, nor am I destroying anything. The blame for this conflict lies with Russia and Putin. I can support the country that was invaded and its citizens terrorised and killed, and I can support the supply of weapons to Ukraine to defend their homeland. That is the extent of what I can do.

If Ukraine sues for peace tomorrow then that is their choice, their future. It isn’t for me, or you, or anyone else to decide. I would hope that the peace they obtain is equitable, and if it isn’t then I understand the pressures and realities behind that peace.

What I do not do is insult Ukraine and the Ukrainians with ridiculous and insulting claims that Ukraine is simply a satrap to the US and its people forced to fight against its will. Those that peddle this idiocy I call out and treat with contempt.
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For you to believe this is not a proxy war for US who have the Russians as their perpetual enemy is incredible.

You can believe as you wish that Ukraine is not filled with corrupt government officials, including Zelenskyy, the oscar accepting president. I mean, who the fook accepts movie stars to fawn at your feet when you're at war?!

Whatever.
 
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