What UEFA Coach attack Investigation?

[Cogsy]

I don’t think Liverpool or the Merseyside Police did get away with it though.

The Liverpool fans’ actions and the poor Policing of it came and bit them on their arse when it happened again in the next round against Roma. When the Police were standing with the Liverpool fans as they attacked the Roma coach, many of which stood on top of Police vans... Roma fans were walking around the other side of Anfield for an hour beating the shit out of Liverpool fans. The Police couldn’t get around to the other side of the ground because they were helping, I mean Policing, the coach attack and their vans couldn’t get out that area due to dozens standing on top of them, while the Roma fans hit one Liverpool fan so hard he was in a coma for months.

Had the Liverpool fans and Merseyside Police not acted together in making their bus greeting an event, that incident probably would not have happened. The man could have died and it would have been the fault of the Liverpool fans and Merseyside Police. It was a cummupance those fans and that Policeforce should learn a lesson from.

I strongly disagree with that. The Roma coach wasn't attacked. I actually think it's a bit of a push to claim the city coach was attacked by the way. It had a few cans thrown at it which isnt a big deal and a couple of bottles by a handful of idiots which is clearly unacceptable but not the widespread attack everyone seems to paint it as.

The welcoming of the coaches happened 90 mins before kick off as the teams arrived. The Roma fans attacked behind the kop about 30 mins before kick off and it was over in moments. There was a heavy police presence there in seconds. They weren't marauding the streets for an hour.

Sitting on top of a police van to get a good view...lock them up!

And to suggest that it's the fault of Liverpool fans and Merseyside police for a lad almost dying and being put into a coma following an attack by Roma ultras clearly intent on violence is bizarre.

Football is tribal and we all have our biases but you're in danger of sounding hysterical. Too much faux outrage loses credibility

 

[BlueAnorak]

Having had experience of the coach / bus business as an owner fleet operator , the fact that lit flares were going under the coach this would cause a risk of a fuelline igniting so i would say the players and staff on the team bus were put in danger because of the lack of action from the Merseyside Police , but i agree with your comment it was a show of disrespect that angers our support . Despite several communications with Merseyside Police and their joke Freedom of Information dept, this incident is just being swept under the carpet, Merseyside Police havent got the balls to take on any wrong doings the Dippers feral supporters have or will do in the future , because of a previous Police investigation from 30 years ago , its never Liverpool supporters fault.

This. Every day.

I strongly disagree with that. The Roma coach wasn't attacked. I actually think it's a bit of a push to claim the city coach was attacked by the way. It had a few cans thrown at it which isnt a big deal and a couple of bottles by a handful of idiots which is clearly unacceptable but not the widespread attack everyone seems to paint it as.

The welcoming of the coaches happened 90 mins before kick off as the teams arrived. The Roma fans attacked behind the kop about 30 mins before kick off and it was over in moments. There was a heavy police presence there in seconds. They weren't marauding the streets for an hour.

Sitting on top of a police van to get a good view...lock them up!

And to suggest that it's the fault of Liverpool fans and Merseyside police for a lad almost dying and being put into a coma following an attack by Roma ultras clearly intent on violence is bizarre.

Football is tribal and we all have our biases but you're in danger of sounding hysterical. Too much faux outrage loses credibility

A few cans? You've got to be a red dipper.
There are around 160 impacts from glasses, bottles and cans that can be heard at the front of the bus alone in the support staffer's video (lets ignore the ones that hit the back of the bus that wont be pucked up in the audio). Multiple flares thrown under the bus as well. The bus was too badly damaged to drive back to Manchester as well.
The only reason the Roma team bus wasn't attacked is the published bus route wasn't taken.
So please just fuck off with your ignorance.


Not one arrest either. Strange that.

 

[jrb]

I strongly disagree with that. The Roma coach wasn't attacked. I actually think it's a bit of a push to claim the city coach was attacked by the way. It had a few cans thrown at it which isnt a big deal and a couple of bottles by a handful of idiots which is clearly unacceptable but not the widespread attack everyone seems to paint it as.

The welcoming of the coaches happened 90 mins before kick off as the teams arrived. The Roma fans attacked behind the kop about 30 mins before kick off and it was over in moments. There was a heavy police presence there in seconds. They weren't marauding the streets for an hour.

Sitting on top of a police van to get a good view...lock them up!

And to suggest that it's the fault of Liverpool fans and Merseyside police for a lad almost dying and being put into a coma following an attack by Roma ultras clearly intent on violence is bizarre.

Football is tribal and we all have our biases but you're in danger of sounding hysterical. Too much faux outrage loses credibility

F***ing hell, where does one start?

Absolving complete blame, etc.

The coach attack has been done to death. You're wasting your time on here with that. Expect a backlash after those comments.

On to the Roma fans.

So 50 Roma Ultras can walk to Anfield with no Police escort, no Police spotters, no Police in riot vans following them, etc.

They can then walk and charge up Anfield road, ending up behind the KOP, and begin to attack Liverpool fans at will, with not a single Police officer is insight. No doubt they were all guarding the Roma coach.

If you watch all the video's of the incident, it was Liverpool fans who evetually mobbed up and chased the Roma Ultras off. Where were Merseyside Police before, during, and after the incident?

How can I put it?

You are posting absolute shit about the Roma attack, and for good measure the coach attack. And you know it.

Liverpool fan? ' It's never your fault.'

 

[Cogsy]

This, this and

A few cans? You've got to be a red dipper.
There are around 160 impacts from glasses, bottles and cans that can be heard at the front of the bus alone in the support staffer's video (lets ignore the ones that hit the back of the bus that wont be pucked up in the audio). Multiple flares thrown under the bus as well. The bus was too badly damaged to drive back to Manchester as well.
The only reason the Roma team bus wasn't attacked is the published bus route wasn't taken.
So please just fuck off with your ignorance.


Not one arrest either. Strange that.

Ok, the bus was hit with a number of cans. Who actually cares about that? A few bottles were thrown which is clearly disgraceful and that's what caused the damage. However, some people go on like the tyres were slashed and the windows all bricked then the thing set on fire, has anyone got a picture of it showing all the damage? People acting like it was unable to move when the reality is that it probably just wasn't quite up to a strict view of the highway code etc. A cracked window or door was it?

Throwing glass bottles should not happen and should be punished, no matter how small the number. However, flicked v's from the crowd and thrown half empty drinks cans getting a bit of beer on the windscreen is nothing to be getting upset about. Ask De Bruyne.

The coach welcomes have been happening at Liverpool for certain big games for a few years now. Intended as a way of showing support for the team and firing up the players. All passed without incident or publicity, even though cans have been lobbed at the opposition bus in the past. Some tit decided to put something on Twitter before the city game which caused hysterics before anything had even happened and led to things being blown out of proportion.

As for ignorance, everyone knew the Roma coach route and there were thousands there for it so you're wrong I'm afraid.

 

[Cogsy]

F***ing hell, where does one start?

Absolving complete blame, etc.

The coach attack has been done to death. You're wasting your time on here with that. Expect a backlash after those comments.

On to the Roma fans.

So 50 Roma Ultras can walk to Anfield with no Police escort, no Police spotters, no Police in riot vans following them, etc.

They can then walk and charge up Anfield road, ending up behind the KOP, and begin to attack Liverpool fans at will, with not a single Police officer is insight. No doubt they were all guarding the Roma coach.

If you watch all the video's of the incident, it was Liverpool fans who evetually mobbed up and chased the Roma Ultras off. Where were Merseyside Police before, during, and after the incident?

How can I put it?

You are posting absolute shit about the Roma attack, and for good measure the coach attack. And you know it.

Liverpool fan? ' It's never your fault.'

I was actually at the Roma game and was stood about 100 yards from the attack. The crowds that welcomed the coaches had long dispersed by the time the Roma fans attacked.

There were plenty of Roma fans monitored all day and escorted to the ground. Some slipped the net. It happens.

There were about 10 police vans on the scene within a minute or 2 of it happening. It wasn't Liverpool fans fault the lad was attacked. To claim so is hysterical.

We will never agree but try to have a bit of perspective and put the tribal divisions to one side for a bit

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

I strongly disagree with that. The Roma coach wasn't attacked. I actually think it's a bit of a push to claim the city coach was attacked by the way. It had a few cans thrown at it which isnt a big deal and a couple of bottles by a handful of idiots which is clearly unacceptable but not the widespread attack everyone seems to paint it as.

You cant be serious. It was damaged to fuck in a prolonged attack on it carried out by a huge mob of baying cult worshipping job dodging thieves. Revisionist thinking at its best that. Or more likely the words of a dipper who, as per, is doging blame and minimising actions.

 

[cleavers]

Ok, the bus was hit with a number of cans. Who actually cares about that? A few bottles were thrown which is clearly disgraceful and that's what caused the damage. However, some people go on like the tyres were slashed and the windows all bricked then the thing set on fire, has anyone got a picture of it showing all the damage?

It was out of action for 2 weeks afterwards, as we used a plain black coach for several games, and there was a fire on the roof, caused by some tw@t throwing a flare up there, more than one lit flares hit the coach. These coaches are built to withstand bricks and bottles (they shouldn't have to be but they are), and still it was out of action for 2 weeks, so you trying to play it down is just ridiculous.

Your fans, and your police are as bad as each other, the police advertising the route, and allowing people to stand on their van roofs (try that in the city centre on a Friday evening and see how long you stay there), and the idiots who threw stuff, with kids watching on too.

 

[burning blue soul]

I won't be all hysterical about the coach attack....but I will never ever forget what they did, and those scummy dipper fans can all go fuck themselves forever.

As you were.

 

[TonyM]

I’d be embarrassed if City fans ever did anything similar to visiting teams or supporters.

You’d think in this day and age that grown men would want to set good example to kids.

To be honest I’m fed up of scumbag middle aged tough men ... especially our own. We should be doing all we can to rid the club of such idiots. Like throwing out any plenty who act like animals in the safety of our crowds.

To think that some clubs like Liverpool promote this behaviour is pathetic and a disgrace to our sport.

I’d prefer us to play in front of 10000 real supporters than 50000 shitspouters. Any atmosphere is not worth scumminess.

 

[franksinatra]

It was out of action for 2 weeks afterwards, as we used a plain black coach for several games, and there was a fire on the roof, caused by some tw@t throwing a flare up there, more than one lit flares hit the coach. These coaches are built to withstand bricks and bottles (they shouldn't have to be but they are), and still it was out of action for 2 weeks, so you trying to play it down is just ridiculous.

Your fans, and your police are as bad as each other, the police advertising the route, and allowing people to stand on their van roofs (try that in the city centre on a Friday evening and see how long you stay there), and the idiots who threw stuff, with kids watching on too.

You are wasting your time. It depends on your own personal standards but taking the City coach out of the equation, there was a risk a child could have been hit by the missiles by a stray projectile or alternatively any kid present would no doubt have been shaken up by what happened, not forgetting the example being set. Thats in addition to the reported injuries to police officers in attendance. To suggest its no big deal just reflects badly on those trying to downplay it.