Why are most (none old-guard) opposing teams and fans so gullible?

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

 

[iwasthere1968]

Started to right a response to the OP but couldn't find the right words. Time to take some time away from here.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

I find very few genuine match going football supporters that don't support our rivals hate City. Most appreciate our football and enjoy watching us play. Social media isn't as indicative of public opinion as it may seem. Everything you see is fed to you by an algorithim. The more you engage with people slagging off the club the more of it you will see!

 

[nozzyblue]

Fuck em

 

[Sleeping_Easy]

Over the past decade or so, since Mansour took over and throughout all of the FFP related investigations that have followed, I have often asked myself the same question over and over.

Why are most opposing teams and fans so gullable?

Any owner or fan with an ounce of common sense can take a look back since way before the Premier League was created (even the reasoning for it's creation) and surely realise what's been going on and why? Seemingly not.

The old guard clubs have controlled everything, from TV rights to player transfers to even the laws of the game. All in the interest of keeping them rich and everyone else poor. Fans and owners alike complained for decades that these teams had an unfair oligopoly on power within English football.

Then, one day someone and his club came along and changed everything forever, Mansour and City. We proved that there was a chance for every club to break the mold and become a modern success, there was indeed a way to stop them controlling us all. Opposing fans looked at us in awe and with a sense of aspirational jealousy, maybe they could and should dream too.

Fast forward 15 years or so and that club with that dream went on to achieve everything promised. They proved that with a wealthy owner and more importantly a world class club management structure, the old guard could be overturned.

Sadly, along that journey, the old guard have tried their very best to stunt that growth and success. They have chosen to create rules, spread lies and use underhand tactics to do this, rather than learning from their experience and upping their own game to compete fairly.

The saddest think however is that those opposing fans and owners outside of the old guard, the ones who used to look at us with aspirational jealously and a sense of gratitude because we were helping break the mold and letting them dream too, have now been brainwashed into believing that we are in fact the enemy and the tyrants.

In the early years, many fans, say Everton or Villa would always have some respect for what we were doing, not just on the field but rather sticking it to the old gaurd off the field. But now in 2023 as a type this message, the briefest glance across television, social media and forums with show that this view has very much changed.

Most fans now believe we have cheated from the off, that we are not worthy of looking up to for inspiration and that the old guard were right all along.

The million dollar question is, how can these team's owners and fans sit there, accepting their fate as 'almost rans' and yet see City as the bad guys and the old guard as one of their own? (And we're not just Premier League sides - there are teams now in the lower leagues, sent there as a result of the old guards rules).

Is it some sort Stockholm Syndrome where these clubs as victims have fallen in love with the old guard as captors? Or is it purely a case of propaganda having got the better of them? After all, if you read and are told something enough times you will believe it right?

It saddens me so much to see and hear the sort of comments I'd expect from United or Liverpool fans coming from Everton or Villa fans. Especially when, upon challenge, they really don't know truly why they're are saying it.

And all of this is without the club ever having being convicted of any material wrong doing. In fact, all we have ever done is gone about our own business, choosing not to attempt to clip the wings of other clubs with similar desires.

I'm sure as city fans you will all have asked these sort of questions in your own heads and faced the vitriol from opposing fans, but I just wanted to type it out here in the hope that either I or someone else could find a true explanation.

I suspect years from now we will eventually find out what has really happened in the background and how the old guard orchestrated one of the longest and most complex acts of propaganda known in sporting history. Until then I guess we just have to endure and hope for the best.

The answer is quite simple and answers for a lot of questions in society in general. Its down to the media machine.

 

[blue by birth]

Because a lot of football fans are thick as shite.

Why would a stoke fan boo raheem sterling because he left liverpool?
Why would a brentford fan boo grealish?

Because they read in the sun that they are greedy bastards and thats enough for them

BOOOOOOOO

I was chatting to an older Port Vale season ticket holder yesterday at Fuerteventura airport and he told me he hated United and Liverpool but he thinks City should be relegated because we are cheats.
I asked him how we have cheated and he said we have broken the rules hence the 115 charges.
What are the charges I asked him..he said he didn't really know as he doesn't follow the Premier league.
I just laughed and said don't believe everything you hear about City..try engaging your fucking brain for once..

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

I find very few genuine match going football supporters that don't support our rivals hate City. Most appreciate our football and enjoy watching us play. Social media isn't as indicative of public opinion as it may seem. Everything you see is fed to you by an algorithim. The more you engage with people slagging off the club the more of it you will see!

It's not just social media algorithms, listen or watch any sports radio show, podcast, YouTube channel or TV station and you will see and hear it as plain as day.

Regarding interactions with other fans. I'm not saying they outwardly dislike us per se. It's just that they simply assume that we must be guilty because that's what the media says.

I find myself starting to try and simply explain why it's all wrong but then I give up as even I feel like a guilty man trying to explain it away. The media have done such a great job on the drip feeding that to try and disprove it by explanation to a lay man is almost impossible as it becomes boring for them as they don't even get the basics.

 

[JASR]

You are a collective of Irish Liverpool fan analysts phishing for their next 'scientific' Paper, exposing BM 'bias' and I claim my £5.

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

I was chatting to an older Port Vale season ticket holder yesterday at Fuerteventura airport and he told me he hated United and Liverpool but he thinks City should be relegated because we are cheats.
I asked him how we have cheated and he said we have broken the rules hence the 115 charges.
What are the charges I asked him..he said he didn't really know as he doesn't follow the Premier league.
I just laughed and said don't believe everything you hear about City..try engaging your fucking brain for once..

EXACTLY THIS!!!!

Without exception, any opposing fan that either says we are guilty or should be punished, cannot explain even in simple terms what we are meant to have done. They just say something like "well you broke the rules right?"

 

[dronefromsector7G]

All I can come up with is they’re cunts