Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[crystal_mais]

I think the management need to make a call at the end of the season.

These are really hard decisions to make. The team are just not performing to their abilities. I still don't feel he has grasped systems that work best in England. It's so frustrating that we have no Plan B, no pace & width when it's crying out for it.

Teams have sussed us out - We play narrow - they keep people wide, press and counter down the flanks -

I don't prescribe to sacking mid season - Would be happy to see him go at the end of the season as long as we have Jose, Klopp or Pep to replace him

 

[NipHolmes]

After Sunday its the most pressure he has been under since his tenure started.

You only replace a manager if its obvious to all and sundry you cannot obtain the level you have to get to under him.

We will learn a bit more about RM and the team on Saturday.

Not beating Ajax over 2 legs told me what I needed to know. Losing to the rags dust hurt because we were better team but again we have points to prove it.

I just look at our team and how we have little chemistry and yet Mancini has been here in the time Chelsea have had 4 bosses and Tottenham 2. We have an imbalanced side, and that's not on. We don't even have the players in positions to balance it up imo and rely on yet more acquisitions.

I want to see him succeed but I also want City to be successful. My loyalty is with the club not just the manager. Whatever happens has been done so by people who knows what's going on and are accomplished. If they see fit to change and go for Pep then so be it.

Imo we will be better for it but I will defo well up seeing Mancini go. Whatever happens in the future he has put in foundations for the future and will be remembered as the man that made City victorious after all that time.

 

[moomba]

Teams have sussed us out - We play narrow - they keep people wide, press and counter down the flanks -

24 points from 10 matches before the derby, that works out to 91 points a year. And we could easily have beaten United yesterday, if teams have sussed us it hasn't been very effective.

 

[NipHolmes]

Now that is nailed on. Pep to Germany as about as likely as Mourinho to Paris. Leverage, and very transparent leverage at that.

I've got to be convinced that its a proper option.

Country with a tongue not spoken in Spain. Few Spanish players in league and team. A league thats on the up but 3rd behind La Liga and Premier League in both talent and money.

Him and Mourinho are both coming here. I make United faves for Jose and us for Pep. I predicted RDM going from Chelsea and I think the premature nature of sacking has hindered them. Nothings set obviously and its conjecture but common sense is needed to draw a proper opinion and prediction.

Agree, I said as much earlier in this thread I believe. For my money, Mourinho and Pep will be in charge of the two Manchester clubs next season ... it's anyone's guess as to who takes who though. I think it's just as feasible that we end up with Mourinho whilst Pep goes to United.

We would do well with either. I just believe Alex will want Jose and our board will want a familiar trusted face in Pep. We will go forward with either. Pep is better for academy and uniform playing style imo. He'd attract youth from Barca too and also retain a clean image for us as a club.

One thing that worries me is his defensive strategy. Barca are poor at th back ad its cost them. Thank God we have a solid backline and promising youth coming through. Couldn't be doing with Adriano playing at the back.

 

[jay_mcfc]

I have supported Mancini more than most but in my eyes the early exits from the cups are only so acceptable if we win the league. If we are trophyless at the end of the season I have no doubts he will be replaced.

 

[Millennium]

To choose Balo over Tevez in a derby match, taking into consideration Balo poor performance so far is something that can not be understood and absorbed and and a proof that Mancini is not good enough to take City to a higher level.

 

[jay_mcfc]

To choose Balo over Tevez in a derby match, taking into consideration Balo poor performance so far is something that can not be understood and absorbed and and a proof that Mancini is not good enough to take City to a higher level.

Rubbish. He has a good squad and choose most of the players to perform well in big games. Mario has put in two fantastic performances against United in his time here and was actually half decent yesterday.

The way the whole team played for half an hour in the first half was a poorer reflection of Mancini tbh.

 

[moomba]

But we have failed miserably in the champions league which was no-one else's fault except Bobby's tactical failings.

Bollocks IMO.

What so switching to 3 at the back against Real Madrid did us loads of bloody favours didn't it eh. Thats not bollocks IMO

Not too many at the club can be absolved of responsibility for our champions league campaign, maybe Hart played up to the standards we should be expecting. To put it all on one person is bollocks IMO, it was a collective failure.

 

[NipHolmes]

Team selection was great but Mario wasn't doing that bad as many make out. What I found worrying is Nasri not being subbed. He had about 15 mins of decent play but was turd other than that.

 

[Anonymous]

We would do well with either. I just believe Alex will want Jose and our board will want a familiar trusted face in Pep. We will go forward with either. Pep is better for academy and uniform playing style imo. He'd attract youth from Barca too and also retain a clean image for us as a club.

One thing that worries me is his defensive strategy. Barca are poor at th back ad its cost them. Thank God we have a solid backline and promising youth coming through. Couldn't be doing with Adriano playing at the back.

I think both men would represent an upgrade on Mancini, and that's all that matters to me at the end of the day.

 

[John.des]

CL failures are hard to explain.

Last year we were in such hot form in the league before/during/after CL matches. Still in CL our only 3 wis came against a Bayern reserve and a relegated Villarreal team. When we faced not reserved or relegated sides we did not win.
This year the same we faced only one reserve side aainst Dortmund we lost that too.

No wins against Napoli or Ajax. No one from Ajax would be a guaranteed starter at City and maybe only Cavani would start regurlarly at City from Napoli.

Also we cant compare the managers Frank de Boer led his team in CL 3rd time and Mazzari had a debut in CL as a manager.
Mancini was in it 6th time last year.

(Klopp second time only this year.)

 

[Anonymous]

To put it all on one person is bollocks IMO, it was a collective failure.

It's not bollocks, it's why managers are employed. To be responsible for the collective.

 

[flb]

To choose Balo over Tevez in a derby match, taking into consideration Balo poor performance so far is something that can not be understood and absorbed and and a proof that Mancini is not good enough to take City to a higher level.

Rubbish. He has a good squad and choose most of the players to perform well in big games. Mario has put in two fantastic performances against United in his time here and was actually half decent yesterday.

The way the whole team played for half an hour in the first half was a poorer reflection of Mancini tbh.

His two fantastic performances last season as you call them were just that-last season.I couldnt give a shit what he did last season im only interested in this one, hes done next to fuck all this season to warrant a start against United.

One player being continually given "Father and Son" treatment surely must wrangle with other team members-they noticeably moved up a couple of gears when he went off, that was very telling for me.

As ive said before Mancini is in danger of falling on his own sword with him,id rather give Guidetti a run than him at this moment in time.

 

[jay_mcfc]

One player being continually given "Father and Son" treatment surely must wrangle with other team members-

How has he got a 'father and son' treatment? Based on two performances against Ferdinand and Evans Balotelli deserved a chance to play against them again. What is so hard to understand about that? Yes we played better when he went off but that was down to the energy in the whole team. Tevez lead from the front and the rest of the team fed off that, I understand that. It's easy in hindsight to say Mancini got it wrong but it is the exact team I would have picked. More worrying from a managers point of view is not how Balo played or what the team selection was, it was the way we capitulated after they scored and subsequently the way we played for half an hour afterwards. I couldn't believe what I was seeing; a completely unbalanced team with no cohesion. I would have subbed Tevez for Nasri as soon as United scored two, that was Mancini's mistake.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

If Mancini leaves then his best replacement would be pep . Not just because of his coaching abilities but because of the men (TB and FS) behind the scene , it would be like one big family and they would work together to ensure that their tenure is a successful one , Also we have a lot of Spanish speaking footballers here so Pep would feel at home. Bringing Mou here would be a big mistake as he would find it hard working with TB and FS and we all know why . Also Mou would bring negative publicity to City , he would get into bitter arguments and quarrels with match officials , he would have run ins with the media people etc , Mou has also criticized City for "having money but no history" so i don't think the club needs him. Pep has this "monk" persona , he never loses his calm , he does his job diligently and the strange thing about this is that he actually intimidates his opponents with his calm persona ! Its a well know fact that Pep plays with at least 2 creative midfielders and in our case that would be Silva and Nasri , On the other hand Mou doesn't really appreciate creative football. The structure is already set for Pep to be successful should he come here , as crazy as this might sound i believe a player like Nasri can find his spark under Pep as Nasri is used to the tiki taka style of play , something he learned at Arsenal . For me If we can't get Pep then we should get Jurgen Klopp.

 

[NipHolmes]

We would do well with either. I just believe Alex will want Jose and our board will want a familiar trusted face in Pep. We will go forward with either. Pep is better for academy and uniform playing style imo. He'd attract youth from Barca too and also retain a clean image for us as a club.

One thing that worries me is his defensive strategy. Barca are poor at th back ad its cost them. Thank God we have a solid backline and promising youth coming through. Couldn't be doing with Adriano playing at the back.

Hate to say butI think both men would represent an upgrade on Mancini, and that's all that matters to me at the end of the day.

I see it like this too. Too many get hung up on forum politics and try be the best fan. Nodding away like Churchill the dog to the consensus at the time.

All these who dare to question Mancini will rue the day they knocked Jose and Pep. There are good reasons why Europes elite teams are hunting their signatures, its not just hunches or coincidence.

 

[John.des]

Well Pep likes to play with creative midfielders yes, but look at Barca how they used to press their opponent high up the pitch. That is vwhere Barca defending starts with Messi, Villa, Sanchez, Iniesta pressing the defenders as soon as they lose the ball...

If Nasri/Balo would do that kind of lazy nothing sometimes he does under Mancini then Pep would fuck him out of the club.

He even put Yaya on the bench for a more disciplined Busquets.

 

[John.des]

We would do well with either. I just believe Alex will want Jose and our board will want a familiar trusted face in Pep. We will go forward with either. Pep is better for academy and uniform playing style imo. He'd attract youth from Barca too and also retain a clean image for us as a club.

One thing that worries me is his defensive strategy. Barca are poor at th back ad its cost them. Thank God we have a solid backline and promising youth coming through. Couldn't be doing with Adriano playing at the back.

Hate to say butI think both men would represent an upgrade on Mancini, and that's all that matters to me at the end of the day.

I see it like this too. Too many get hung up on forum politics and try be the best fan. Nodding away like Churchill the dog to the consensus at the time.

All these who dare to question Mancini will rue the day they knocked Jose and Pep. There are good reasons why Europes elite teams are hunting their signatures, its not just hunches or coincidence.

Well there is a big difference between the teams that will be after Mancini in the summer if he becomes available and those teams that are after Pep/Mourinho.

But there is a bigh fight as Chelsea, United, PSG, Bayern, Milan, Real all can have new managers and Pep/Mourinho cannot go but only to two places.:)

But probably Fergie stays maybe one more year. But hard to think Mancini would be appointed anywhere at these clubs. More like Monaco they were after him as we heard earlier. Or maybe a Russian club.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Teams have sussed us out - We play narrow - they keep people wide, press and counter down the flanks -

24 points from 10 matches before the derby, that works out to 91 points a year. And we could easily have beaten United yesterday, if teams have sussed us it hasn't been very effective.

If we are going off statistics, it's 24 from 11, which is heading for 83 points... i.e. not enough.

But it's not about statistics. Its about how come a team of such immense talent is having to come from behind relying on late winners from Dzeko to rescue some points. We might *easily* be 5 or 6 points worse off had we not pulled off last minute winners at Spurs, West Brom and Fulham. So you could say we are lucky to be heading for 83 points. It could have been a whole lot worse.

And it really should not be like this with a stable squad with the talent they have and a manager who's been here 3 years.

 

[flb]

One player being continually given "Father and Son" treatment surely must wrangle with other team members-

How has he got a 'father and son' treatment? Based on two performances against Ferdinand and Evans Balotelli deserved a chance to play against them again. What is so hard to understand about that? Yes we played better when he went off but that was down to the energy in the whole team. Tevez lead from the front and the rest of the team fed off that, I understand that. It's easy in hindsight to say Mancini got it wrong but it is the exact team I would have picked. More worrying from a managers point of view is not how Balo played or what the team selection was, it was the way we capitulated after they scored and subsequently the way we played for half an hour afterwards. I couldn't believe what I was seeing; a completely unbalanced team with no cohesion. I would have subbed Tevez for Nasri as soon as United scored two, that was Mancini's mistake.

There has been nothing this season that warranted Balotelli a start against United, he does have a close relationship with Mancini from his Inter days-Mancini gave him his chance in the first team,Balotellis own admission of his father son relationship with him.Hes had more than enough chances to buckle down and realise this talent hes supposed to have, players at the club must privately think Balo can do no wrong-and he cant as is evident on the pitch on dozens of occasions.

Storming down the tunnel every time hes subbed off is a disgrace IMO, waving his arms about slapping the turf and praying to the sky even when its blatantly his fault for things wrong on the pitch.


hes got the brains of a toddler and unfortunatley hes never going to change-Mancini is dropping an almighty big bollock in still trusting him.