Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[NipHolmes]

Hi Inter fan here.

I am not against City, also I dont support City, but there are strong feeling in Europe that City was one of teams being favourite to win the CL after bayern, Barca, Real and maybe Chelsea after Abramovich spent money again. (And has bigger chance than Arsenal or United as league position has a say in it generally.) City dissapointed in CL it is clear. (Dortmund is a big surprise after last year, but they are really really good.)

And thats why I signed up here I try to give you what was the problem with Mancini at Inter.


His CL record will be his end.

His Inter CL record: always went trough from group stages with us but it was expected given Inter's strenghts and the oppenets in groups (like Inter-Fenerbahce-PSV-CSKA Moscow group or Inter-Rangers-Porto-Bratislava).

From year to year in knockout rounds:

2005: 1/4 finals, Ancelotti' Milan, our city rival, pretty big loss, 0-2 loss first leg, then 0-3 second leg, with 5-0 aggregated result over two matches Milan went trough, Milan went to the finals later and there they lost to Benítez's Pool (hahahahahahaha, from 3-0 up).

2006: 1/4 finals, Pellegrini's Villarreal they reached semfinals wit win over Inter, only lost to Arsenal
(It was dissapointing as there were hopes to make it right after last years horrible loss vs. Milan, and Villarreal really did not have stars…)

2007: 1/8 finals, Valencia They then instantly lost to Chelsea next round, another dissapointing CL season, Valencia was alright with Silva and Villa upfron that time, but Inter was leading in the league we had like 24-3-0 record and Roma had 15 points less with 10 matches before the end we were winning the league basically in March. And the hopes were very high in CL and he failed to beat Valencia, news from his firing started after this season, evenif he won the league with 22 points lead in may 2007, with Lazio on third place was about 30+ points worse.

2008: 1/8 finals, Benítez's Liverpool ,they reached semifinals

Do I have to continue? Liverpool were good in England this year, they had some good players Gerrard, Xabi A, Maschearano, Torres, but we had Figo, Ibra, Vieira, Maicon, Cambiasso etc. and Mancini lost both legs (0-1 and 0-2) of this fight.
So basically he never lost to a team that won the CL later which could have been a little bit excuse for us, "look they won the whole thing,how could we beat them?"

The bad thing is naybe Milan had a better squad in 2005 than Inter but Villarreal, Valencia and Liverpool did not have better squad (or more expensive squads) than Inter in those years.

Mancini went into these knockout matches like Inter with 60-65% favourite all the time except vs. Milan in 2005. (But still Milan-Inter 2-0 then Inter -Milan 0-3 in second leg area humiliating results between city rivals in CL. Imagine if you go trough this year and meet United later on, and them winning 2-0 at home then 3-0 in your stadium, pfff.)

Even if our team was a little bit favourite he came short against Pellegrini, Benítez and Quqie Flores's Valencia. Pretty much being found out tactically. He knew everything about Serie A, he could win that without problem. (Also truth is that Juventus going Serie B helped a lot as it was impossible for to win the league unitl they were in Serie A as it turned out it was maybe because of their matchfixing.:D And we signed their stars Vieria, Ibra instantly :D)

So Moratti (our owner) wanted CL results from Mancini and all we got was 1/4 finals first year, 1/4 finals second year, then only 1/8 finals third years, and 4th time when patience was really running out and he could save his job with a big CL results at least a semifinals he lost to Benítez's Pool that year in 1/8 finals.
Not a single semifinals in 4 years with a strong squad.

Improving in the CL is not what Mancini did at Inter in 4 years. But won us leagues with biggest rival being AS Roma. The only reason he doesnt won the league easily or wont win it esily at City this time because he has harder rivals with better squads than that Romas was under Spalletti.

The most important question for City how important is CL to your owners?
To get good results in CL, to be a team that is feared and respected (for the results you have instead of the big transfer prices and wages you can give!) in Europe not just in England.
They will have to get a new manager for CL success, or really go out shit on FFP and get those world class players Mancini wants. A De Rossi wont be enough alone for you. The difference between Bayern, Real, Dortmund and City is not a De Rossi. A lot more than that.

CL is about:
Pace, tactics, right subs, right changes in the match, finding a mistake in the opponents's play and exploit it as soon as you can, discipline, determination and being able to adapt to your opponent and of yourse fair amount of luck also etc. Thats what was exploited with us by the rival coaches under Mancini. And thats what changed in 2010 when Mourinho won us the CL. He found those weaknesses in our play changed in them 1 year, then next time he found them in Barca, in Bayern and we won it finally.

For you it was Heynckes, Mazzari, De Boer, Mourinho, Klopp all found ways to beat City.

Only the names are different from Pellegrini, Benítez, Ancelotti, Quique Flores who found ways to beat us.

Mancini is not different he is still the same. Good in the league, simply not good enough in CL. Same as at Inter.

To say something good about him he put down some of basics for Mourinho.Thats what he did at City too. I see you complain a lot about his tactics. You shouldn as at Inter he tried everything with Ibra. You have 4 great strikers. We had Ibra mainly is later years under Mancini and it was if Ibra scores we win, if Ibra is bad we dont win.
Ibra never won CL, he is cursed thats why we never won CL with Mancini.:)

We sold Ibra after Mourinho's first year to Barca. In 2009 they won CL. Thn we sel them Ibra. We win it instantly in 2010. Barca sells Ibra 2010 summer to Milan. Barca wins again in the season after that in 2011.:)
Ibra avoided CL wins perfectly.

So when Ibra was king Inter was king, but when Ibra had a bad day we suffered as the tactics was Ibra has to solve it on his own but Mancini put behind him a very massive team that rarely conceded in the league. So tha same no concede score one and you win is MAncini's favourite thing in the world.

He would win a match 1-0 instead of 5-2.
:))

All in all I think it is just question of the time Man City owners give their squad to a manager that is good in CL. Group stage exits are pretty bad results from Mancini with full of players like Yaya toure, Tevez, Silva, Kompany, MAicon, Mario, Dzeko, Agüero. Even 1/8 finals would be bad with these players.

Stronger squad than Chelsea and they won it ast year. This year they made Cl exit now and manager was fired.

Thanks for posting. Nice to have an Inter fan's opinion.

if he show an evidence to be an italian inter fan i will cut my cock . i swear.

He owes nothing to you and needs to prove nothing to nobody. His post was concise and factual and even if he wasn't an Inter fan it changes nothing anyway.

Get over yourself.

 

[Mancio]

Thanks for posting. Nice to have an Inter fan's opinion.

if he show an evidence to be an italian inter fan i will cut my cock . i swear.

He owes nothing to you and needs to prove nothing to nobody. His post was concise and factual and even if he wasn't an Inter fan it changes nothing anyway.

Get over yourself.

the fact is that his post is a lot of shit so full of falsehoods that even worth to read it.

 

[Anonymous]

the fact is that his post is a lot of shit so full of falsehoods that even worth to read it.

Which facts that he's stated are incorrect ... better surely that you point to factual inconsistencies in his post rather than cutting your own cock off surely ?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

if he show an evidence to be an italian inter fan i will cut my cock . i swear.

He owes nothing to you and needs to prove nothing to nobody. His post was concise and factual and even if he wasn't an Inter fan it changes nothing anyway.

Get over yourself.

the fact is that his post is a lot of shit so full of falsehoods that even worth to read it.

Hahahahaha

Like Justin Beiber going into a fight with Mike Tyson armed with a peashooter.

 

[NipHolmes]

if he show an evidence to be an italian inter fan i will cut my cock . i swear.

He owes nothing to you and needs to prove nothing to nobody. His post was concise and factual and even if he wasn't an Inter fan it changes nothing anyway.

Get over yourself.

The fact is that his post is a lot of shit so full of falsehoods that even worth to read it.

as billy said, care to quote such mistakes?

A guy spends ages making a great post and shit is slung at it with a 2/3 line post. Show the lad some respect for heavens sakes.

As a heavily pro Mancini poster I look forward to your reply and I also ask you now why you believe Mancini has been so 'weak' in the elite competition that is Champions League. Thanks in advance for effort and time.

 

[Mancio]

Hi Inter fan here.

I am not against City, also I dont support City, but there are strong feeling in Europe that City was one of teams being favourite to win the CL after bayern, Barca, Real and maybe Chelsea after Abramovich spent money again. (And has bigger chance than Arsenal or United as league position has a say in it generally.) City dissapointed in CL it is clear. (Dortmund is a big surprise after last year, but they are really really good.)

And thats why I signed up here I try to give you what was the problem with Mancini at Inter.


His CL record will be his end.

His Inter CL record: always went trough from group stages with us but it was expected given Inter's strenghts and the oppenets in groups (like Inter-Fenerbahce-PSV-CSKA Moscow group or Inter-Rangers-Porto-Bratislava).

From year to year in knockout rounds:

2005: 1/4 finals, Ancelotti' Milan, our city rival, pretty big loss, 0-2 loss first leg, then 0-3 second leg.

no way an inter fan would have wrote this.

this is more than enough to show that all the post is just a joke.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Hi Inter fan here.

I am not against City, also I dont support City, but there are strong feeling in Europe that City was one of teams being favourite to win the CL after bayern, Barca, Real and maybe Chelsea after Abramovich spent money again. (And has bigger chance than Arsenal or United as league position has a say in it generally.) City dissapointed in CL it is clear. (Dortmund is a big surprise after last year, but they are really really good.)

And thats why I signed up here I try to give you what was the problem with Mancini at Inter.


His CL record will be his end.

His Inter CL record: always went trough from group stages with us but it was expected given Inter's strenghts and the oppenets in groups (like Inter-Fenerbahce-PSV-CSKA Moscow group or Inter-Rangers-Porto-Bratislava).

From year to year in knockout rounds:

2005: 1/4 finals, Ancelotti' Milan, our city rival, pretty big loss, 0-2 loss first leg, then 0-3 second leg.

no way an inter fan would have wrote this.

this is more than enough to show that all the post is just a joke.

*shoots pea*

 

[NipHolmes]

Hi Inter fan here.

I am not against City, also I dont support City, but there are strong feeling in Europe that City was one of teams being favourite to win the CL after bayern, Barca, Real and maybe Chelsea after Abramovich spent money again. (And has bigger chance than Arsenal or United as league position has a say in it generally.) City dissapointed in CL it is clear. (Dortmund is a big surprise after last year, but they are really really good.)

And thats why I signed up here I try to give you what was the problem with Mancini at Inter.


His CL record will be his end.

His Inter CL record: always went trough from group stages with us but it was expected given Inter's strenghts and the oppenets in groups (like Inter-Fenerbahce-PSV-CSKA Moscow group or Inter-Rangers-Porto-Bratislava).

From year to year in knockout rounds:

2005: 1/4 finals, Ancelotti' Milan, our city rival, pretty big loss, 0-2 loss first leg, then 0-3 second leg.

no way an inter fan would have wrote this.

this is more than enough to show that all the post is just a joke.

Hahahahahahaha. Get a bastard grip for fucks sakes.

What should he have written? 'We lost 3-0 in the second leg'? Still the same result, point out these facts then?<br /><br />-- Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:47 am --<br /><br />

Hi Inter fan here.

I am not against City, also I dont support City, but there are strong feeling in Europe that City was one of teams being favourite to win the CL after bayern, Barca, Real and maybe Chelsea after Abramovich spent money again. (And has bigger chance than Arsenal or United as league position has a say in it generally.) City dissapointed in CL it is clear. (Dortmund is a big surprise after last year, but they are really really good.)

And thats why I signed up here I try to give you what was the problem with Mancini at Inter.


His CL record will be his end.

His Inter CL record: always went trough from group stages with us but it was expected given Inter's strenghts and the oppenets in groups (like Inter-Fenerbahce-PSV-CSKA Moscow group or Inter-Rangers-Porto-Bratislava).

From year to year in knockout rounds:

2005: 1/4 finals, Ancelotti' Milan, our city rival, pretty big loss, 0-2 loss first leg, then 0-3 second leg.

no way an inter fan would have wrote this.

this is more than enough to show that all the post is just a joke.

*shoots pea*

*misses*

Tyson then walks upto Bieber and puts his gum in the end of straw.

Taxi for Justin.

 

[Mancio]

Hi Inter fan here.

I am not against City, also I dont support City, but there are strong feeling in Europe that City was one of teams being favourite to win the CL after bayern, Barca, Real and maybe Chelsea after Abramovich spent money again. (And has bigger chance than Arsenal or United as league position has a say in it generally.) City dissapointed in CL it is clear. (Dortmund is a big surprise after last year, but they are really really good.)

And thats why I signed up here I try to give you what was the problem with Mancini at Inter.


His CL record will be his end.

His Inter CL record: always went trough from group stages with us but it was expected given Inter's strenghts and the oppenets in groups (like Inter-Fenerbahce-PSV-CSKA Moscow group or Inter-Rangers-Porto-Bratislava).

From year to year in knockout rounds:

2005: 1/4 finals, Ancelotti' Milan, our city rival, pretty big loss, 0-2 loss first leg, then 0-3 second leg.

no way an inter fan would have wrote this.

this is more than enough to show that all the post is just a joke.

Hahahahahahaha. Get a bastard grip for fucks sakes.

What should he have written? 'We lost 3-0 in the second leg'? Still the same result, point out these facts then?

the facts is that that is not true , its false as is false him being an inter fan.

and dont ask me why thats false , you can find it by yourself.

 

[Anonymous]

So basically the problems is one of semantics for Mancio ... in which case there isn't a problem. We've forgiven Mancio plenty of wooden semi literate phrases because we get the point. So the same applies to his Inter supporting friend.

Funnier still, if the conversation were about Mourinho no doubt Mancio would be shitting all over his CL win like a proper Inter supporter.<br /><br />-- Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:52 pm --<br /><br />

and dont ask me why thats false , you can find it by yourself.

The final score was .... 0 - 3.

So the only "false" thing in his post is, as I say, a question of semantics rather than facts.