Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

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I'm not convinced with Pep. I mean he seems gifted and did wonders at Barca, but I can only see it going two ways, amazing or horrible. Not to say I wouldn't want him on board, but I would take Mourinho (even though it won't happen) a head of him.

I'm fine with Mancini However, but we haven't looked in that really good form for a year now which is worrying, there have been one or two games here and there but not as consistent as other times, but, he is generally getting results.

Time will sort this out, and i rest assured knowing that our owners have our best interests.
 
LoveCity said:
The Times which isn't exactly a red top gossip paper, running a back page that Mancini lost it in the dressing room and verbally tore apart Joe Hart, leading to senior players becoming very unhappy with him.

Similar being printed in The Independent

City tensions run high as Hart bites back at Mancini

Manager's derby criticism riles goalkeeper and further aggravates his relationship with senior players




In a heated post-match dressing room exchange the Manchester City goalkeeper, Joe Hart, fought his corner against his manager, Roberto Mancini, after the Italian blamed him for the Robin van Persie goal which inflicted Sunday's last-minute derby defeat.

Mancini's senior players continue to be bemused and frustrated by his public criticism of them and in the fiery argument after Manchester United's victory, Hart told the manager that he had ordered Carlos Tevez to leave the defensive wall for Van Persie's free-kick – in contradiction of the Italian's orders. Hart insisted the Argentine was obstructing his view of the ball and argued that there was no way he could have known that Samir Nasri would duck behind the wall and merely stick out a leg when Van Persie's free-kick came in. If the Frenchman had stood his ground and done his job he would have taken the ball full on his face, Hart reasoned.

Mancini insisted after the defeat that he had told Tevez to stay in the wall, though Hart's own instructions were being frantically conveyed by Gareth Barry in the seconds before the set-piece which sealed United's victory and triggered a frenzied finale at the Etihad Stadium. The defensive uncertainty led Hart to lean fractionally towards the left-hand side of his net, which the wall should have covered, as the Netherlands striker approached the ball. That left Hart slightly flat-footed and unable to reach the ball delivered just inside his right post.

The City manager's relationship with Hart seemed unbreakable when he gave him the jersey over Shay Given at the start of the 2010-11 season. Hart has also emerged as one of the natural leaders of the team, noticeably for his honesty after the club's failures in Europe this season. But this has not always gone down well with Mancini and the spirit of collectivism which the squad seems to need is not there.

The febrile last minutes of Sunday's game, in which Rio Ferdinand sustained a gash above his eye after being hit by a coin, led the Football Association chairman, David Bernstein, to demand life bans for perpetrators amid signs that "deplorable" hooliganism is returning to the game. The Professional Footballers' Association chief executive, Gordon Taylor, called for protective netting to be used at grounds to prevent fans striking players with missiles thrown from the stands. "You've got to give consideration to possibly some netting in vulnerable areas, be it behind the goals and round the corner flags," he said.

But, although the FA has the right to impose nets on a club as part of a disciplinary hearing, the governing body does not see nets as workable and the Hillsborough Justice Campaign last night said such a move, imposing a constraint on fans, would be deeply unwelcome.

Greater Manchester Police, who made 13 arrests at the game, indicated that bringing criminal convictions against missile throwers – who also hit Wayne Rooney – would be difficult, because of the problems of viewing hours of CCTV footage and linking faces on the footage to throwers. After the 2010 Carling Cup semi-final between the sides at Eastlands, when golf balls and darts were seized from fans and a plastic cigarette lighter was hurled at United's Patrice Evra, GMP took the unusual step of publishing images of suspects in Manchester Evening News. They will do so again if they feel there is a prospect of a conviction, though the sifting process will take until the new year.

The City fan who ran on to the pitch to try to confront Ferdinand faces a lifetime ban from the club despite his apology.

City have confirmed that Matthew Stott, 21, has had his season ticket removed for the rest of the season and faces a lifetime ban if found guilty in court of a charge of pitch encroachment. "His season card has been immediately removed for the rest of the season and he has been charged to appear at court. If he is found guilty he faces a lifetime ban," said a City spokesman.
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Mancini was/is a bit harsh to his players, even when he was a player
He uses his dominance like ohter Italian managers
No blame but sometimes I hope him to show a small affection to the players for encouraging
look AJ
 
Some managers put their arms around the team and get shit players working their arses off just like Pearce did with Barton but the italians manage like they are the boss and that is what they are at the end of the day the boss not everybodys pal.
players like AJ, Adebayor who "need to feel the love"are just out for 1 thing and thats starting every game even when they aint putting a shift in, I hope its true that bobby tore into Nasri and Hart cos if one hadnt of hid like a coward and the other had set his wall up we would be 3 points off the top today.
Footballs a tough trade and players need to know when they have dropped their team in the shit not have their noses blown for them every two seconds.
If we win the league then he should be in charge next season.
 
SuperMario's Fireworks. said:
If city were to get pep, it does a few things

1. We would press, we dont do it often enough, certainly not in europe, his barca side hunted in packs, had the mentality that they'd win the ball back in 6 seconds.

2. Faster Tempo, more of a one touch style of play, rather than this tippy tappy/arsenal esq we seem to be doing at the moment. Defensively, i believe hed make us more balanced, not leaving clichy exposed 2 on 1 in every CL game and game against top teams.

3. Stars become available, A manager like pep can attract any footballer on the planet, and id be confident some of the barca stars would look at us if we had pep and think, "i want to go to city".

4. he'd have a better relationship with the players, Mancini has adopted a distant relationship with the players, With pep it'd be more of the arm around the shoulder type, which your tevez's need.

what do you guys think. this isnt a get bobby out post, just wanted to voice my opinion on what getting pep instead would do.

Hate to admit it but i think you make some valid points. You can't help think that the players would love to play under someone like Pep.
 
Be careful what you wish for....

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chicagoblues said:
Be careful what you wish for....

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Of course there are issues and conflicts between any manager and his players, but it is exceedingly rare for any manager anywhere on this planet to insult and humiliate his own players in the media, again and again and again. If you knew anything about Mancio as a player, this kind of behaviour and attitude would not come as a surprise, as he spent his long career openly fighting with opponents, his own teammates, his own managers, and, of course, referees and linesmen. He has made so many enemies at City that the only support he has comes from his own coaches, who will sink or swim with him.
 
We have to make 18-4-0 or 18-3-1 record from now on? Wow hopefully it will happen that will be a miracle again. Well we have the huge advantage that we didnt even "want" EL because now we can concentrate on the league.

Can we make this "huge advantage" count in our favour? That's up to Mancini.

Newcastle is in ten times worse form now than us or than they were last season.
Would be unacceptable to not beat them on Saturday. if we look at results this season which teams were able to get 3 points against them easily home/away.

And for a 18-3-1 record we really cant make many mistakes.
 
Damanino said:
We have to make 18-4-0 or 18-3-1 record from now on? Wow hopefully it will happen that will be a miracle again. Well we have the huge advantage that we didnt even "want" EL because now we can concentrate on the league.

Can we make this "huge advantage" count in our favour? That's up to Mancini.

Newcastle is in ten times worse form now than us or than they were last season.
Would be unacceptable to not beat them on Saturday. if we look at results this season which teams were able to get 3 points against them easily home/away.

And for a 18-3-1 record we really cant make many mistakes.

'course we can only if we can play as for last 6 games last season.
 
Now's the time to support the manager. Our opponents want us to be divided.

Remember when we always changed our manager .... we won nothing.

In Mancini I trust!
 
moomba said:
Chippy_boy said:
Ok, let me explain a bit more clearly for you:

You said "We're roughly on a par with matching our results from last season (maybe 2 points behind), if we can maintain that par we'll win the league again."

That's a generous assessment given that we had 41 points after 16 games last year and this year we have 33.
But even accepting your 2 point deficit, that would mean we are on target to get 83 points this year, not 89.

"Maintain that par" and we will not have 89 points, or anything near it.

I said we were roughly on par, which we are based on like for like games. Par over the course of the year is the 89 points we got last season.

If we can maintain that par (we're currently 1 or 2 points behind it) we will get 89 points the same as last year. If we get 89 points we will win the league IMO.

Are you thick, or just being difficult?

If we were on THE SAME points, it would be reasonable to suggest that at THE SAME rate, we'd end up on THE SAME points, i.e. 89.

But we are not on the same points. We are 2 points worse. Keep at this rate and you do not end up with the same points, you end up with less.

How fucking difficult is this? You were plain wrong, just deal with it instead of keep repeating the same guff.
 
Someone not getting game time who cleary doesnt like Mancini must have leaked this I wonder who.. Lol

Anyway about time the players got told especially hart he has been making mistakes a lot and being the media darling he never get any criticism what so ever. I think is good but world class as no 1 in the world no as the media keep telling us... He needs to be told seriously to much arragonce lately- Roy Keane was right- needs to be dropped once give Costel a chance.

The players better start performing now...I'm with Mancini on this even though I dint like our players being slagged off publically even though calling Nasri 2 1/2 man was funny lol true really such cowardice is embarrassing he let everyone down :(
 
Chippy_boy said:
moomba said:
Chippy_boy said:
Ok, let me explain a bit more clearly for you:

You said "We're roughly on a par with matching our results from last season (maybe 2 points behind), if we can maintain that par we'll win the league again."

That's a generous assessment given that we had 41 points after 16 games last year and this year we have 33.
But even accepting your 2 point deficit, that would mean we are on target to get 83 points this year, not 89.

"Maintain that par" and we will not have 89 points, or anything near it.

I said we were roughly on par, which we are based on like for like games. Par over the course of the year is the 89 points we got last season.

If we can maintain that par (we're currently 1 or 2 points behind it) we will get 89 points the same as last year. If we get 89 points we will win the league IMO.

Are you thick, or just being difficult?

If we were on THE SAME points, it would be reasonable to suggest that at THE SAME rate, we'd end up on THE SAME points, i.e. 89.

But we are not on the same points. We are 2 points worse. Keep at this rate and you do not end up with the same points, you end up with less.

How fucking difficult is this? You were plain wrong, just deal with it instead of keep repeating the same guff.

Are you capable of having an adult conversation, or is throwing insults from the safety of you keyboard more you're style.

We are roughly on par (slightly behind). If we maintain par we will finish on 89 points. If we don't maintain par we wont.

And IMO if we maintain par we will win the league. Its not that difficult a concept. and it exactly the same a few days ago when we were roughly on par (1 or two points ahead).
 
fixing his attitude with the players is a bit late now, been happening for years, won 't change because of one match.

imo, he will be sacked, the FA cup could be the last straw that breaks the camel's back.
 
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