simon23 said:Win or Lose tomorrow, win or lose the league, RM neds to be kept as manager for the forseeable future (the length of his contract)
The self styled special one would only be a temporary manager.....a few years, a few trophies and he would be off again...plus on a personnel level I thiknk he is more deploreable than ferguson.
We are in the process still of building a new piece of history for the club, new facilities, new CEO and behind the scenes staff etc. A change of manager would just disrupt the process we are making. We have to remember that process isnt always linear as well...it can go in steps where you go up a bit, then stall a little, but then after a while you go up again....maybe this season is our stall after 2-3 years of big improvements...(maybe it wont be!)...and if it is we need to just carry on.....
how long is it since wenger won something...I know finally the arsenal fans in the last couple fo seasons are starting to get frustrated with him and some want him gone but overall they have remained very patient...
we are famed for our patience with the club overall as fans....maybe that should be now turned to the manager (where we havent been so in the past)
RM has started to build somehting...he should be given the length of his contract at least to see how that goes and if we can continue to be successful under him.
we dont want to be like chelski and i know others will hate this but in terms of management we need to be more like utd and keep faith in the manager.
BlueAnorak said:simon23 said:Win or Lose tomorrow, win or lose the league, RM neds to be kept as manager for the forseeable future (the length of his contract)
The self styled special one would only be a temporary manager.....a few years, a few trophies and he would be off again...plus on a personnel level I thiknk he is more deploreable than ferguson.
We are in the process still of building a new piece of history for the club, new facilities, new CEO and behind the scenes staff etc. A change of manager would just disrupt the process we are making. We have to remember that process isnt always linear as well...it can go in steps where you go up a bit, then stall a little, but then after a while you go up again....maybe this season is our stall after 2-3 years of big improvements...(maybe it wont be!)...and if it is we need to just carry on.....
how long is it since wenger won something...I know finally the arsenal fans in the last couple fo seasons are starting to get frustrated with him and some want him gone but overall they have remained very patient...
we are famed for our patience with the club overall as fans....maybe that should be now turned to the manager (where we havent been so in the past)
RM has started to build somehting...he should be given the length of his contract at least to see how that goes and if we can continue to be successful under him.
we dont want to be like chelski and i know others will hate this but in terms of management we need to be more like utd and keep faith in the manager.
I agree 110%. He was won us 2.5 trophies I want a club that keeps their word if the manager has proven to do the business. Mancini has. Now Hughes was clueless - yet at least one of the idiots who want's Mancini out wanted to keep Hughes! That shows idiocy on a grand scale.
Can you explain the Balotelli obsession this season? If anything, he is being underplayed.DD said:Huge game for Mancini tomorrow. I got the distinct feeling in Dortmund that a significant proportion of our fans are finally starting to see through him. His tactics degenerated into an abomination once again and there is only so long that we are going to continue to grind out results in the Premier League in spite of him.
If we win and go back to the top, he'll be flavour of the month again, but if we lose and go six points behind, then I think he is on borrowed time. It might sound harsh when we are unbeaten but our embarrassing Champions League form, the Balotelli obsession and the fact that he is simply not getting anything like 100% from a squad that is good enough to win the league comfortably, is all adding up to create a big problem in the making.
I reckon somebody like Jürgen Klopp would get an extra 20% out of the players and we'd be damned near untouchable.
It's a pivotal game and, for the greater good, defeat might not be such a bad thing, in my opinion. It won't stop me backing them to the hilt tomorrow, for all we all want is success, but success would be achieved more easily with the right man in charge.
I have seen much evidence to suggest that the players are not entirely happy with his methods. Can all 20 odd of them be wrong and him be right? We'd have walked the league last year and this year with an infinitely better squad of players than the opposition but we didn't and we won't. For me, that is down to a manager who doesn't improve the players, he merely maintains them, if he doesn't downgrade them.
The Future's Blue said:Regardless of your personal thoughts of the poster, he has a genuine point. The author of that post written it in an attempt to show an Inter fans point of view. Also, the author states that it will be Mancini's downfall and it is his genuine opinion that we will do nothing until we change our manager for one of the proven coaches.
Now, that is all well and good and I thought it was a really good post, until, that is, he/she made the school boy error, and showed to me anyway, that it was nothing more than another subversive attempt to blacken our current manager.
To quote the loss, as Mancio picked up, as just a 3-0 loss, was schoolboy. If Inter were my club and I was stating the facts I'd still want to put the truth across, as not to belittle my clubs acheivements. The author clearly did not know his club, Mancio picked it up, the post was therefore not an Inter fans view of Mancini but some mischievous attempt to besmirch our manager.
DD said:Huge game for Mancini tomorrow. I got the distinct feeling in Dortmund that a significant proportion of our fans are finally starting to see through him. His tactics degenerated into an abomination once again and there is only so long that we are going to continue to grind out results in the Premier League in spite of him.
If we win and go back to the top, he'll be flavour of the month again, but if we lose and go six points behind, then I think he is on borrowed time. It might sound harsh when we are unbeaten but our embarrassing Champions League form, the Balotelli obsession and the fact that he is simply not getting anything like 100% from a squad that is good enough to win the league comfortably, is all adding up to create a big problem in the making.
I reckon somebody like Jürgen Klopp would get an extra 20% out of the players and we'd be damned near untouchable.
It's a pivotal game and, for the greater good, defeat might not be such a bad thing, in my opinion. It won't stop me backing them to the hilt tomorrow, for all we all want is success, but success would be achieved more easily with the right man in charge.
I have seen much evidence to suggest that the players are not entirely happy with his methods. Can all 20 odd of them be wrong and him be right? We'd have walked the league last year and this year with an infinitely better squad of players than the opposition but we didn't and we won't. For me, that is down to a manager who doesn't improve the players, he merely maintains them, if he doesn't downgrade them.
BillyShears said:The fact you and Mancio have picked up on this one nuance in a post of that length, to try and question the integrity of the poster, says more about you two and your irrational defensiveness of Mancini.
Are you really trying to get a rational argument out of this guy?SWP's back said:Can you explain the Balotelli obsession this season? If anything, he is being underplayed.
jay_mcfc said:BillyShears said:The fact you and Mancio have picked up on this one nuance in a post of that length, to try and question the integrity of the poster, says more about you two and your irrational defensiveness of Mancini.
I have a question, and it's one I genuinely do not know the answer too except for Mourinho and Ferguson. How does Mancini's first 6 seasons of Champions League management compare with other big name managers? How many of the other top managers have won it within 6 opportunities?