Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[yerwot?]

this thread needs an 'expert' to point out the differences in CL football, and the domestic version, and why RM cannot cope. "No good in Europe" is too loose, needs flesh on the bones for us novices

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

this thread needs an 'expert' to point out the differences in CL football, and the domestic version, and why RM cannot cope. "No good in Europe" is too loose, needs flesh on the bones for us novices

Do the stats not sum it up for you?

 

[Berkovic_blue]

this thread needs an 'expert' to point out the differences in CL football, and the domestic version, and why RM cannot cope. "No good in Europe" is too loose, needs flesh on the bones for us novices

Do the stats not sum it up for you?

Do they tell you WHY?

 

[Mancio]

this thread needs an 'expert' to point out the differences in CL football, and the domestic version, and why RM cannot cope. "No good in Europe" is too loose, needs flesh on the bones for us novices

well.... maybe i'm expert enough for to try to explain to you the big difference that there is between league football and cups football. now we can say that mancini has shown to be good for leagues football having won both serie a and epl , but it seem he's not good enough to understand the cups football , well... apart from the cups he won with fiorentina , lazio , inter and city

now someone will say that domestic cups football is different from european cups football , of course , and maybe there will be someone that will explain that when city struggled against juventus and napoli it was becouse mancini doesnt understand italian football

 

[The Future's Blue]

Regardless of your personal thoughts of the poster, he has a genuine point. The author of that post written it in an attempt to show an Inter fans point of view. Also, the author states that it will be Mancini's downfall and it is his genuine opinion that we will do nothing until we change our manager for one of the proven coaches.

Now, that is all well and good and I thought it was a really good post, until, that is, he/she made the school boy error, and showed to me anyway, that it was nothing more than another subversive attempt to blacken our current manager.

To quote the loss, as Mancio picked up, as just a 3-0 loss, was schoolboy. If Inter were my club and I was stating the facts I'd still want to put the truth across, as not to belittle my clubs acheivements. The author clearly did not know his club, Mancio picked it up, the post was therefore not an Inter fans view of Mancini but some mischievous attempt to besmirch our manager.

The fact you and Mancio have picked up on this one nuance in a post of that length, to try and question the integrity of the poster, says more about you two and your irrational defensiveness of Mancini.

No it doesn't, what it says is that the integrity of a poster is questioned when they don't have all the facts. I noticed your good self defended the post to be an accurate statement, yet it wasn't.

What it also fails to say is that Inter topped their group on 2 occassions and on another he Inter came second behind Bayern. The first season seen them win 4 and draw 2 in the groups before beating Porto, the current CL holders in the last 16. In the quarters, they would have actually been beaten by AC at the time the game was called off but it is something you would remember well as an Inter fan, surely. The AC team were also one that had just beaten United to get into the Milan Derby, before they went onto the final and were beaten in sensational style by Liverpool.

Would you like me to go on?

 

[moomba]

I don't know why we bother to buy players if the difference between success and failure in Europe is just down to whether the manager is "good enough" for Europe or not.

Our results from the last two years (success and otherwise) are down to a combination of things, although it seems that when things go well it's because we have the players, when they don't all the blame goes on the manager.

 

[Damocles]

Huge game for Mancini tomorrow. I got the distinct feeling in Dortmund that a significant proportion of our fans are finally starting to see through him. His tactics degenerated into an abomination once again and there is only so long that we are going to continue to grind out results in the Premier League in spite of him.

If we win and go back to the top, he'll be flavour of the month again, but if we lose and go six points behind, then I think he is on borrowed time. It might sound harsh when we are unbeaten but our embarrassing Champions League form, the Balotelli obsession and the fact that he is simply not getting anything like 100% from a squad that is good enough to win the league comfortably, is all adding up to create a big problem in the making.

I reckon somebody like Jürgen Klopp would get an extra 20% out of the players and we'd be damned near untouchable.

It's a pivotal game and, for the greater good, defeat might not be such a bad thing, in my opinion. It won't stop me backing them to the hilt tomorrow, for all we all want is success, but success would be achieved more easily with the right man in charge.

I have seen much evidence to suggest that the players are not entirely happy with his methods. Can all 20 odd of them be wrong and him be right? We'd have walked the league last year and this year with an infinitely better squad of players than the opposition but we didn't and we won't. For me, that is down to a manager who doesn't improve the players, he merely maintains them, if he doesn't downgrade them.

You're a fucking disgrace.

 

[Anonymous]

Regardless of your personal thoughts of the poster, he has a genuine point. The author of that post written it in an attempt to show an Inter fans point of view. Also, the author states that it will be Mancini's downfall and it is his genuine opinion that we will do nothing until we change our manager for one of the proven coaches.

Now, that is all well and good and I thought it was a really good post, until, that is, he/she made the school boy error, and showed to me anyway, that it was nothing more than another subversive attempt to blacken our current manager.

To quote the loss, as Mancio picked up, as just a 3-0 loss, was schoolboy. If Inter were my club and I was stating the facts I'd still want to put the truth across, as not to belittle my clubs acheivements. The author clearly did not know his club, Mancio picked it up, the post was therefore not an Inter fans view of Mancini but some mischievous attempt to besmirch our manager.

The fact you and Mancio have picked up on this one nuance in a post of that length, to try and question the integrity of the poster, says more about you two and your irrational defensiveness of Mancini.

No it doesn't, what it says is that the integrity of a poster is questioned when they don't have all the facts. I noticed your good self defended the post to be an accurate statement, yet it wasn't.

What it also fails to say is that Inter topped their group on 2 occassions and on another he Inter came second behind Bayern. The first season seen them win 4 and draw 2 in the groups before beating Porto, the current CL holders in the last 16. In the quarters, they would have actually been beaten by AC at the time the game was called off but it is something you would remember well as an Inter fan, surely. The AC team were also one that had just beaten United to get into the Milan Derby, before they went onto the final and were beaten in sensational style by Liverpool.

Would you like me to go on?

You can go on all day if you like mate. Nothing changes the facts. The facts weren't incorrect in his post. You can spin them all day and all you do is continue to show an unnerving amount of defensiveness about Mancini.

 

[Deleted member 52846]

Huge game for Mancini tomorrow. I got the distinct feeling in Dortmund that a significant proportion of our fans are finally starting to see through him. His tactics degenerated into an abomination once again and there is only so long that we are going to continue to grind out results in the Premier League in spite of him.

If we win and go back to the top, he'll be flavour of the month again, but if we lose and go six points behind, then I think he is on borrowed time. It might sound harsh when we are unbeaten but our embarrassing Champions League form, the Balotelli obsession and the fact that he is simply not getting anything like 100% from a squad that is good enough to win the league comfortably, is all adding up to create a big problem in the making.

I reckon somebody like Jürgen Klopp would get an extra 20% out of the players and we'd be damned near untouchable.

It's a pivotal game and, for the greater good, defeat might not be such a bad thing, in my opinion. It won't stop me backing them to the hilt tomorrow, for all we all want is success, but success would be achieved more easily with the right man in charge.

I have seen much evidence to suggest that the players are not entirely happy with his methods. Can all 20 odd of them be wrong and him be right? We'd have walked the league last year and this year with an infinitely better squad of players than the opposition but we didn't and we won't. For me, that is down to a manager who doesn't improve the players, he merely maintains them, if he doesn't downgrade them.

What a load of shite!

 

[The Future's Blue]

Huge game for Mancini tomorrow. I got the distinct feeling in Dortmund that a significant proportion of our fans are finally starting to see through him. His tactics degenerated into an abomination once again and there is only so long that we are going to continue to grind out results in the Premier League in spite of him.

If we win and go back to the top, he'll be flavour of the month again, but if we lose and go six points behind, then I think he is on borrowed time. It might sound harsh when we are unbeaten but our embarrassing Champions League form, the Balotelli obsession and the fact that he is simply not getting anything like 100% from a squad that is good enough to win the league comfortably, is all adding up to create a big problem in the making.

I reckon somebody like Jürgen Klopp would get an extra 20% out of the players and we'd be damned near untouchable.

It's a pivotal game and, for the greater good, defeat might not be such a bad thing, in my opinion. It won't stop me backing them to the hilt tomorrow, for all we all want is success, but success would be achieved more easily with the right man in charge.

I have seen much evidence to suggest that the players are not entirely happy with his methods. Can all 20 odd of them be wrong and him be right? We'd have walked the league last year and this year with an infinitely better squad of players than the opposition but we didn't and we won't. For me, that is down to a manager who doesn't improve the players, he merely maintains them, if he doesn't downgrade them.

You're a fucking disgrace.

I must admit, I had similar thoughts myself.