Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[NipHolmes]

Go back 10 pages or so, question was asked 'lose CL final, or win FA cup?'
A couple answered lose CL, I think nip was one of these.

I've been back 25 pages but I can't see owt. I'll take your word for it, although I'm getting a whiff of one of DD's straw men about your argument. There's a world of difference between someone genuinely not wanting City to win a trophy in isolation, and them choosing one of 2 trophies in an either/or debate

Here you go, from page 373.....

I'd sooner be second best in Europe than best in England.

DEAR. FUCKING. GOD.

Have a look how many said the same as me when that question was asked.

One comp is worth something daft like £2.5m and the other £50m. Is it any wonder why clubs rest players for CL and field weakened teams in the FA Cup?

I personally would like both and I agree success is an obvious positive but lets have it right. Money is just as important and so too is exposure. Finishing runner up in CL is worth like £35-40m whereas FA Cup is a drop in the ocean comparatively.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Sjk are you shit stirring again?
It was they dont want to see Mancini lift the trophy not the club not winning it
They would sooner it be another manager holding it aloft.

 

[NipHolmes]

I've been back 25 pages but I can't see owt. I'll take your word for it, although I'm getting a whiff of one of DD's straw men about your argument. There's a world of difference between someone genuinely not wanting City to win a trophy in isolation, and them choosing one of 2 trophies in an either/or debate

Here you go, from page 373.....

DEAR. FUCKING. GOD.

As someone who thinks Nip posts' are good in the main, that was an odd one I agree. As was the corruption and "Giggs on EPO" malarky yesterday.

Lets clear this up.

I stated I'd rather finish second in all of Europe than finish best in England (I meant cup btw). We've had this debate.

As for this league I 100% believe corruption is taking place and imho United call in favours when the chips are down.

As for EPO and Giggs, that's opinion but I have heard of other sportsmen who dope to gain relentless energy as they decline.

Lets keep debate on topic though, after all Giggs and United have nothing to do with Mancini.<br /><br />-- Fri May 03, 2013 10:59 am --<br /><br />

Sjk are you shit stirring again?
It was they dont want to see Mancini lift the trophy not the club not winning it
They would sooner it be another manager holding it aloft.

TCM you couldn't be more wrong fella.

You asked 'would you rather win the FA Cup or finish runner up in Europe' and many of us said runner up because of the added prestige and cash. If we win this cup v Wigan then I want to prioritise Europe ahead of both domestic cups, why? Because of the in roads in Europe we need to make and for the extra revenue and prestige.

Not hard to understand, well, that is if you want to understand. It is quite easy to twist, lie and take out of context though. Desperate measures ;)

Seriously though. I'd be ecstatic to see Mancini lift the Champions League trophy, for us first of all and for him to get the monkey of his back.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

You tell 50'000 blues coming out of wembley after hopefully winning the cup
If they would swap that experience and joy for a CL final loss

And that's leaving all the money and profile of the club to one side
Just from a fans point of view.

 

[FantasyIreland]

knowing the outers are seriously going to be so pissed off when Bobby and his team lift another trophy on the 11th of May.

Are you wired right?

Once again,because it doesn't seem to be sinking in....... Regardless of our individual opinions on the manager and,subsequently,what side you sit on,ultimately,we all want what's best for Manchester City.

Just because some of us believe he should have had greater success and made better progress with our amazing resources doesn't detract from the fact that winning the trophies he has isn't fantastic,so,rest assured,i will be as ecstatic as you.

Hopefully that is now clear,if not,i'll be happy to simplify it further.

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

Another trophy beckons mate
And they may have to see mancini's grinning face holding yet another piece of silverware aloft
Can you imagine how much that must fucking piss them off :)

the outers are seriously going to be so pissed off when Bobby and his team lift another trophy on the 11th of May.

Sjk are you shit stirring again?
It was they dont want to see Mancini lift the trophy not the club not winning it
They would sooner it be another manager holding it aloft.

Do you really believe that any one of Nip, DD, Exeter, etc, upon seeing City lifting the FA Cup will be sat there thinking "For fuck sake, I'm well pissed off that Mancini has just won us the FA Cup" whilst everyone is celebrating?

No. You don't and it's because you're talking out of your arse.

The outers believe there's better options out there. With the exception of BS who openly dislikes Mancini on a high level, none of them would "hate" to see Mancini lift the trophy. You're an utter fool if you believe that to be honest. It is two entirely different things wanting a new manager and not wanting to see your current manager lift a trophy.

I wanted Dickov out for months because I feared relegation under him. Are you saying that if we survived relegation, I'd be pissed off that we'd done so simply because it's Dickov. If you really do, then you're not wired correctly, mate.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Sjk are you shit stirring again?
It was they dont want to see Mancini lift the trophy not the club not winning it
They would sooner it be another manager holding it aloft.

I couldn't give a fuck who lifts it,as long as they do!

I just don't think Mancini is capable of achieving our full ambitions,it's that simple!

Why do you believe its more complicated than that?

 

[NipHolmes]

You tell 50'000 blues coming out of wembley after hopefully winning the cup
If they would swap that experience and joy for a CL final loss

And that's leaving all the money and profile of the club to one side
Just from a fans point of view.

That's a different scenario though isn't it?

You asked me what I wanted and I want what is best over a long period and that is financial gain and European progression in stature.

As a fan you care about winning. Pompy fans would have been euphoric when they lifted the cup, where are they now? Apples and oranges I know but fact of the matter is FFP is a huge obstacle to avoid, revenue needs to raised and savings on wage bill need to happen. Hence my decision because it IS the best thing for City in the long run.

Profile aside of course I'd sooner win. I want to win every game. There is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't be going for doubles and trebles from now on in anyway with the players and squad we can call upon. This summer will further enhance that view point.

 

[The Flash]

I've been back 25 pages but I can't see owt. I'll take your word for it, although I'm getting a whiff of one of DD's straw men about your argument. There's a world of difference between someone genuinely not wanting City to win a trophy in isolation, and them choosing one of 2 trophies in an either/or debate

Here you go, from page 373.....

DEAR. FUCKING. GOD.

Have a look how many said the same as me when that question was asked.

One comp is worth something daft like £2.5m and the other £50m. Is it any wonder why clubs rest players for CL and field weakened teams in the FA Cup?

I personally would like both and I agree success is an obvious positive but lets have it right. Money is just as important and so too is exposure. Finishing runner up in CL is worth like £35-40m whereas FA Cup is a drop in the ocean comparatively.

I think this is where we differ Nip. You are looking at it from the joyless position that football is a business. This quest to see the bigger picture. And yes, football is big business now.

But I look at it as a City fan, and nowadays it's about what we see out on the pitch and seeing big shiny trophies being held aloft by a dashing Italian bloke.

That is the joy of football.

If you want to follow a club where the balance sheet is prized more highly than a trophy then Arsenal are the best example of that.

The money will take care of itself. I'm just looking forward to the cup final.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

They have already gone on record as saying they want him gone no matter what
Refuse to acknowledge his name,they won't clap towards him,join in with the other 40'000 in singing his name,they have a dislike for the bloke

So if or when he holds the trophy above his head I expect them to keep true to form and stay silent
They will still cheer the team just not mancini.