Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Exeter Blue I am here said:
The cookie monster said:
And exeter it was on an earlier post i referred to some outers...

So I'm "fucking dim" because I didn't trawl back through your previous posts before replying to the one in question? Hmmmm! ;)

Yep-You called it..dimwit......:-)

But still a cut above those who find their true level arguing with intellectual soulmates like Ronnie Irani, eh?! Back in your box now, there's a good boy
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Exeter Blue I am here said:
So I'm "fucking dim" because I didn't trawl back through your previous posts before replying to the one in question? Hmmmm! ;)

Yep-You called it..dimwit......:-)

But still a cut above those who find their true level arguing with intellectual soulmates like Ronnie Irani, eh?! Back in your box now, there's a good boy

How many times are you going to resort to the Irani jibe ? You're beginning to make Ronnie the rag look like an intellectual giant. At least show a bit of imagination with your insults ;.)
 
What exactly did he say at his press conference today?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/premierleague/article3756169.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2013_05_03" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/foo ... 2013_05_03</a>
 
Davs 19 said:
Exeter Blue I am here said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Yep-You called it..dimwit......:-)

But still a cut above those who find their true level arguing with intellectual soulmates like Ronnie Irani, eh?! Back in your box now, there's a good boy

How many times are you going to resort to the Irani jibe ? You're beginning to make Ronnie the rag look like an intellectual giant. At least show a bit of imagination with your insults ;.)

Once, I guess. It's the first time I've used it!!!!
 
On a slightly different tack, if things on the recruitment front go as predicted we'll continue to have an Italian manager with a predominantly Italian staff and no Italian players. Bit like Trappatoni and the Irish.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Yaya_Tony said:
I think we can all agree that the Project is huge, but if FFP has hamstrung us a bit then one thing we are not short of is time. The homegrown generation of City is some way off yet. We know we can play brilliant football in the here and now, and there is no reason why we can't play like we know we can in Europe. It is tight margins when the opposition are just as good as you are and humans can make individual errors occasionally, more often in high pressure situations like our opening European game this season. Shit happens.

Luckily I think the owners understand this. For me Mancini gets time, we don't need to rush it. Consistently challenging at the top of the league as we have done for the past 3 years is absolutely fine for now, Europe will come eventually. I think some of us just need to chill, enjoy where we are now, and to use your phrase from above, "go with the flow". We're in good hands and it is going to take a while before we are a "European heavyweight". Keep doing what we have been domestically first, and it will guive us a solid platform to build on. Might even be next season, who knows, that's the beauty of it. Relax mate.

Not read all 37 pages but this pretty much sums up the situation for me.

Patience is a virtue, as they say.

The problem, as I see it, is that in every area of our 21st century lives we have been granted the ability to get almost anything we want now, NOW, NOW, but "thees ees football" and it's one of the few things in our modern day lives that just doesn't work like that.

For me, the best course of action is to not rock the boat unless it needs rocking; quit moaning and enjoy the ride, remembering that good things come to those who wait and realising that when these good things do finally arrive they'll taste all the sweeter for the waiting.
Exactly, well said.
 
Yaya_Tony said:
Exactly, well said.

Cheers mate, but I was just following your lead really though wasn’t I.

I just get pissed off with all these “would you rather have an FA Cup Final win or a Champions League Final loss” type of questions. I mean, is that really a serious question? Really? I’m almost lost for words by it all. One of those trophies is an achievable short-term goal, a stepping-stone on the journey, a way in which we can gauge our progress; the other is one step away from the holy grail of European football and one of our owner’s long-term project goals. It’s not even apples and oranges. And yet just five short years after the takeover some people want it now and they’re getting tetchy that we haven’t achieved it yet.
Mancini’s shit in Europe, let’s get rid” they shout. “Look at his record in the competition; let’s find somebody with a better record, that’ll sort it. We’ll win it for sure then.”
The temperature of my A - rhesus negative goes up another degree.

And they’re even pissed that we’ve not won a second title on the bounce and spout crap about “we’ve spent money, we should’ve won it this year as well” as evidence of why our manager isn’t up to the task in hand.
Yes, we’ve spent money, a lot of money, but we’ve done it over a very short space of time, but some people seem to fail to understand the fact that to some extent it takes a full year/season to analyse the value of that money spent and where if anywhere extra changes need to be made or additions need to be brought in.
IT TAKES TIME.
Footballers aren’t like upgrades for your car are they; you don’t really know what you’re getting when you pay your money, and you are always taking a bit of a gamble when you put your money down. Who knew that Nastasic would be so good? Who knew that Garcia would be so bad? Who knew that Maicon would be so injury prone? Who knew that Nasri wouldn’t step up? Who knew that …etc…etc…etc. There are just too many variables.
Don’t get me wrong, I do understand, to some extent, the need for some sort of trophy related return on the investment, but what I’m saying is that it’s not an exact science is it. Money spent does not correlate exactly to trophies won and sometimes it’s nobody’s fault that somebody else was better than you.
Like I said before “thees ees football”.
In my lifetime …(“It’s a different City now though”, “We’re not likkle City anymore” - YAWN!)… before the takeover we’d been to two League Cup Finals and won one and one FA Cup Final and lost it; and since then we’ve won the FA Cup and the league.
In back to back seasons.
IN BACK TO BACK SEASONS
Last year people were saying that our winning of the league was “ahead of schedule” and so to some extent we have delivered some of this expected return already, yet still people persist in sticking to this “Ooooh, Europe, we were shit, sack him.” It really beggars belief.
IT TAKES TIME.
I’m not very far away from boiling point now, it’s getting closer by the minute.

But the thing I simply don’t understand is some people’s inability to read between the lines in relation to certain media related issues. It really, really baffles me. We all know that the tabloids are full of negative jackanories about City, it’s been discussed at extreme length in far too many threads on this site; one minute the majority of our fans are in agreement that journalists are the scourge of our club, seen as the enemy and as such should be banned for life from ever entering Bradford/Beswick ever again; but the next minute they’re causing a split in opinion and some people are being brain washed by it.
I WONDER WHO WE’RE GONNA GET AS OUR NEW MANAGER” I hear them cry as a direct result of what can only be described as a constant wave of fictionalised stories in the press, “IT MUST BE TRUE, I’M READING IT EVERWHERE” they muse and then they begin their circular arguments about why the guy we’ve got is shit and why their chosen preferred manager would be so much better. Is it really beyond the realms of possibility that it’s being done to rock our boat? Can nobody else see that this just might be yet another method that they’re employing in an attempt to destabilise us?

We have one of the best managers in the league and….. oh, bollocks to it, I can’t be arsed with explaining my point of view anymore, I’m gonna stop ranting now and get some sleep or else I’m going to POP!

Forza.... oh, whatever!
 
LoveCity said:
What exactly did he say at his press conference today?

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Thought he made his point pretty well regarding press rumours, and did it in a matter of fact tone that should have headed any "Furious Mancini losing the plot" headlines off at the pass. Didn't look like a man planning to resign at the end of the season, as has been hinted
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Yaya_Tony said:
Exactly, well said.

Cheers mate, but I was just following your lead really though wasn’t I.

I just get pissed off with all these “would you rather have an FA Cup Final win or a Champions League Final loss” type of questions. I mean, is that really a serious question? Really? I’m almost lost for words by it all. One of those trophies is an achievable short-term goal, a stepping-stone on the journey, a way in which we can gauge our progress; the other is one step away from the holy grail of European football and one of our owner’s long-term project goals. It’s not even apples and oranges. And yet just five short years after the takeover some people want it now and they’re getting tetchy that we haven’t achieved it yet.
Mancini’s shit in Europe, let’s get rid” they shout. “Look at his record in the competition; let’s find somebody with a better record, that’ll sort it. We’ll win it for sure then.”
The temperature of my A - rhesus negative goes up another degree.

And they’re even pissed that we’ve not won a second title on the bounce and spout crap about “we’ve spent money, we should’ve won it this year as well” as evidence of why our manager isn’t up to the task in hand.
Yes, we’ve spent money, a lot of money, but we’ve done it over a very short space of time, but some people seem to fail to understand the fact that to some extent it takes a full year/season to analyse the value of that money spent and where if anywhere extra changes need to be made or additions need to be brought in.
IT TAKES TIME.
Footballers aren’t like upgrades for your car are they; you don’t really know what you’re getting when you pay your money, and you are always taking a bit of a gamble when you put your money down. Who knew that Nastasic would be so good? Who knew that Garcia would be so bad? Who knew that Maicon would be so injury prone? Who knew that Nasri wouldn’t step up? Who knew that …etc…etc…etc. There are just too many variables.
Don’t get me wrong, I do understand, to some extent, the need for some sort of trophy related return on the investment, but what I’m saying is that it’s not an exact science is it. Money spent does not correlate exactly to trophies won and sometimes it’s nobody’s fault that somebody else was better than you.
Like I said before “thees ees football”.
In my lifetime …(“It’s a different City now though”, “We’re not likkle City anymore” - YAWN!)… before the takeover we’d been to two League Cup Finals and won one and one FA Cup Final and lost it; and since then we’ve won the FA Cup and the league.
In back to back seasons.
IN BACK TO BACK SEASONS
Last year people were saying that our winning of the league was “ahead of schedule” and so to some extent we have delivered some of this expected return already, yet still people persist in sticking to this “Ooooh, Europe, we were shit, sack him.” It really beggars belief.
IT TAKES TIME.
I’m not very far away from boiling point now, it’s getting closer by the minute.

But the thing I simply don’t understand is some people’s inability to read between the lines in relation to certain media related issues. It really, really baffles me. We all know that the tabloids are full of negative jackanories about City, it’s been discussed at extreme length in far too many threads on this site; one minute the majority of our fans are in agreement that journalists are the scourge of our club, seen as the enemy and as such should be banned for life from ever entering Bradford/Beswick ever again; but the next minute they’re causing a split in opinion and some people are being brain washed by it.
I WONDER WHO WE’RE GONNA GET AS OUR NEW MANAGER” I hear them cry as a direct result of what can only be described as a constant wave of fictionalised stories in the press, “IT MUST BE TRUE, I’M READING IT EVERWHERE” they muse and then they begin their circular arguments about why the guy we’ve got is shit and why their chosen preferred manager would be so much better. Is it really beyond the realms of possibility that it’s being done to rock our boat? Can nobody else see that this just might be yet another method that they’re employing in an attempt to destabilise us?

We have one of the best managers in the league and….. oh, bollocks to it, I can’t be arsed with explaining my point of view anymore, I’m gonna stop ranting now and get some sleep or else I’m going to POP!

Forza.... oh, whatever!

It's 8.00 in the morning and I have a smile on my face after reading this,fucking well done mate,you have just put down what I have been thinking for a long time ( only you did it much better than I could have ) more power to you mate,more power.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
Davs 19 said:
Exeter Blue I am here said:
But still a cut above those who find their true level arguing with intellectual soulmates like Ronnie Irani, eh?! Back in your box now, there's a good boy

How many times are you going to resort to the Irani jibe ? You're beginning to make Ronnie the rag look like an intellectual giant. At least show a bit of imagination with your insults ;.)

Once, I guess. It's the first time I've used it!!!!


Apologies if that's the case. I must be confusing you with another outer....
 

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