Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[OB1]

No, no, no my friend. Now you're just throwing some big names in the air without thinking about what you're saying.
- Kijin

No I am not.

OK. kind of a plain response. So you disagree with what I said about the philosophical difference or you just don't care about that kind of stuff?

- Kijin

Do you know how many different pages of debate there have been in this forum on the subject of Mancini and possible alternatives?

2 posts suggests that you have just pitched up and pitched in without any understanding of the points of view or knowledge of people who have been regular contributors to this debate.

You might be advised to do a bit of homework before trying to teach people to suck eggs.

 

[zeven]

Forza Mancini all u want our mgmt are keeping their options open and this latest meeting today only confirms that. The only other thing they could have maybe been talking about is Rodriguez whose been very good at Porto who will want at least £20m for him

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PS.
You are not Napoleon fan by any chance?

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Forza Mancini all u want our mgmt are keeping their options open and this latest meeting today only confirms that. The only other thing they could have maybe been talking about is Rodriguez whose been very good at Porto who will want at least £20m for him

Are you ITK

To be ITK on BM dont require much.
PS.
You are not Napoleon fan by any chance?

You are going to have to explain what a Napoleon fan is?? But the answer is no!

 

[cmdub]

Are you ITK

To be ITK on BM dont require much.
PS.
You are not Napoleon fan by any chance?

You are going to have to explain what a Napoleon fan is?? But the answer is no!

Not itk at all just making assumptions based on the article and who else he represents

 

[BobKowalski]

That would be my opinion. When we missed out on Pep, we should have moved heaven and earth to get Mourinho or Klopp.

No, no, no my friend. Now you're just throwing some big names in the air without thinking about what you're saying. Let me explain; First you say we should have acquired Pep. Then you said we should have gone for Mou, big conflict there - big conflict of football phlosophy. We should first contemplate what sort of football do we want to play on the pitch. This comes first IMO, Even before man mangement, media, and mind game -skills.

I don't see Klopp leaving BvB yet and I think his next job will be the German national team so leaving him out from this point on.

As philosophies go, Pep and Mou are opposites. Now Mancini, he is most def closer to Pep. So if you wanted Pep, you'll probably want Mancini to stay. Though Mancini is of course considerably weaker than Pep in many areas. Like setting up the team to press after loss of posession. Sure City do press, but more individually (like Kun or Tevez) Peps Barca did it more collectively. Second signicant area is pace of posession play and even better movement of players off the ball. Sure Mancini has strenghts against him like man management. OK, Roberto could have done better with Tevez, Mario. But still better than Pep who couldn't handle one Ibra. Sure he will have a merry time with Robben and Ribery @ Bayern. They both share a weakness though. Inability to react in game when the opposite manager has deviced something that is better than what they originally had planned. Mou has the edge on both of these guys on this. Surprisingly Klopp seems to be a man that Mou has no answer to. Not even on the third time asking. This must eat away at the "special one" greatly Ahh but I'm ranting now...

I never wanted Pep. He is too big of a risk. We don't know about his adaptabily. For all his skill he might have been leaning heavily on the feeling of 'home' which Barcelona is to him. And the goody good school boy attitude within the La Masia breed squad led by Messi. But I guess we'll see how he does in Germany.

I for one would kill for City to play some Mou-ball especially in away games. Let the opponent have the ball - Let the a*holes think they have a shot and when they push up the field take the ball away and crush them with the pace that we have. That's what Mou does so well it makes me want to cry. RMA did it brilliantly against Athetic Bilbao a couple of weeks ago in La Liga

Sure he is an a*hole himself, but hey for the good of the club. The only big problem I see with Mou is that eventhough he is a good "player's manager" and most players like him. If some experienced player would really stand against him he'll be like "get the f out of here" and it will stay that way. Just like what he did to Iker. It does not seem like Mou intends to forgive before he leaves.

Sorry if my English was a bit stiff (not native speaker) And sorry if I wandered too much talking about other clubs.

And hello to the forums! Hope I won't be making too many enemies not being a huge fan of some aspects in Mancini's management. Peace

- Kijin

Good post.

I tend to agree with you that identifying what sort of football club you wish to be and what sort of footballing philosophy you wish to represent should be what dictates the manager or head coach you appoint.

That Ferran and (I suspect) the owners would favour a Pep type appointment than say Mourinho is pretty obvious. This of course opens up the field to someone like Pellegrini whose philosophy the Barca duo may admire even if his CV is not that compelling. Well okay I don't find it compelling but thats just me.

The unknown in all this is how they regard Mancini and on this point we are all pretty much in the dark although the signs are that Mancini and his staff do appear to have received assurances that there will be no changes for next season.

Oh and welcome to the forum

 

[OB1]

Are you ITK

To be ITK on BM dont require much.
PS.
You are not Napoleon fan by any chance?

You are going to have to explain what a Napoleon fan is?? But the answer is no!

St Helena!

 

[Kijin]

Do you know how many different pages of debate there have been in this forum on the subject of Mancini and possible alternatives?

2 posts suggests that you have just pitched up and pitched in without any understanding of the points of view or knowledge of people who have been regular contributors to this debate.

You might be advised to do a bit of homework before trying to teach people to suck eggs.

No I do not know that. It seems I have been too offensive. I just saw an interesting discussion and wanted to share my thoughts of these gentleman. I was not trying to teach you anything. It just felt weird you putting Pep and Mou side by side there. To me they represent too different ends of a rope. Doesn't feel right to go grasping for both ends. That's is all I was after.

- Kijin

 

[zeven]

Are you ITK

To be ITK on BM dont require much.
PS.
You are not Napoleon fan by any chance?

You are going to have to explain what a Napoleon fan is?? But the answer is no!

Your nick St helens blue (exiled) i just put two and two together, as Napoleon were exiled to st helena.
A fan of Napoleon is a person that see him as one of the greatest men in history, ofcource being from England i can understand you see him differently.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

AS.com reporting that Txiki has been spotted in Madrid restaurant with the agent of Pellegrini, Jesus Martinez.

Here is the link to the report:-

<a class="postlink" href="http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/04/29/primera/1367250266_461417.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/04/29/ ... 61417.html</a>

Translated:-

Txiki Begiristain, manager of Manchester City, met Monday in Madrid with Manuel Pellegrini's agent, Jesus Martinez, to negotiate his possible move to the City. Pellegrini, coach has always been the taste of Begiristain, I already wanted to sign for Barcelona when he entered the Chilean Villarreal, has a contract with Malaga but the same agent, Jesus Martinez, has admitted in recent days the future of coach is uncertain.

Begiristain and Pellegrini agent have been in central Wellington Goizeko Madrid restaurant. Now, is the favorite to replace Mancini, whose future leaks despite published this weekend around an Italian continuity is uncertain

 

[taconinja]

No I am not.

OK. kind of a plain response. So you disagree with what I said about the philosophical difference or you just don't care about that kind of stuff?

- Kijin

Do you know how many different pages of debate there have been in this forum on the subject of Mancini and possible alternatives?

2 posts suggests that you have just pitched up and pitched in without any understanding of the points of view or knowledge of people who have been regular contributors to this debate.

You might be advised to do a bit of homework before trying to teach people to suck eggs.

Oh goodie. I assume this means you'll refrain in the future from your very righteous indignity when someone criticizes you on a personal level as happened some pages back before you and I believe it was Exeter decided to tag-team and deride other posters for the low tactic of ad hominem arguments instead of engaging with the points? I mean... seeing as you don't feel the need to engage with the argument either I don't see why you wouldn't.<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:53 pm --<br /><br />

Do you know how many different pages of debate there have been in this forum on the subject of Mancini and possible alternatives?

2 posts suggests that you have just pitched up and pitched in without any understanding of the points of view or knowledge of people who have been regular contributors to this debate.

You might be advised to do a bit of homework before trying to teach people to suck eggs.

No I do not know that. It seems I have been too offensive. I just saw an interesting discussion and wanted to share my thoughts of these gentleman. I was not trying to teach you anything. It just felt weird you putting Pep and Mou side by side there. To me they represent too different ends of a rope. Doesn't feel right to go grasping for both ends. That's is all I was after.

- Kijin

You shouldn't worry about it. One of the favorite tactics here is to moan and complain that no one wants to engage in an actual discussion and only wants to personally attack the opposition... until someone does so and then that's no good either it seems.