Why The Hell Would Anyone Want Mancini Sacked ?

[Master_Tactician]

I'm very very divided on this. On the one hand I appreciate Bobby has won us our first Premiership (yes he spent a lot of money but you still have to make a team), and managers get sacked too quickly these days so in an ideal world you’d say he has earned himself more time, particularly at this club as we can‘t become like Chelsea.

On the other hand we badly need to do well in the Champions League to stay ahead of the FFP curve, and I don't think anything in our European performances over the past three years or his record at Inter suggests he can do this with us.

I also don't think he's in the same league as Mourinho or Ferguson with regards to tactical brilliance or getting consistency from players over the course of a season (respectively) and under pressure, and my prediction if he stays is that we’ll be talking about the same European problems and be third in the league this time next year.

If FFP didn’t exist I’d say keep him for another year, but as things are more pressing than this I would say he should be replaced IF we can bring in someone like Klopp or Pellegrini.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The CL is an added investment at the moment but not crucial to our sustainability. The PL is where it's at with anything other a real bonus.

That's not to say that the quadruple wouldn't be accepted.

What a ridiculous statement.

Of course it's crucial, it's what gives us the additional revenue to make top drawer signings whilst complying with FFP.

Prove it, please.

I can't believe you just posted that.

Truly incredible.

 

[The Future's Blue]

I understand that the Champs League is important, but our number one priority is winning the tite back, and if he does that against two of the best managers that have ever lived it's inconceivable that we'd sack him imo.

The CL is an added investment at the moment but not crucial to our sustainability. The PL is where it's at with anything other a real bonus.

That's not to say that the quadruple wouldn't be accepted.

We are established and proven in the PL. That job has been accomplished and the box well and truly ticked.

CL is the be all and end all for any club with the visions and dreams we have for the future and its crucial that we make our mark immediately because with every year that goes by not doing so, it will just get harder and we wont be taken with the same seriousness that we have now in the PL.

Bob will know its importance should he get the gig again next year and he will know what will happen if he doesn't at least make it to the knock out phase.

Well established, proven in the Premier League, I must've missed a few years.

We're still learning, we are a whipper snapper in all respects. We're getting there though.

 

[Blue Haze]

I still don't think Bob's 5 at the back is a terrible setup. But he needs an effective approach and the correct personnel. Midfielders who pass sideways and forwards without pace won't work with this approach. We're setting up in Europe like a counterattacking team that can't counter.

If we get the personnel, he maybe can pull it off, even if his record doesn't show it. Cavani will not save us, it must be a significant change or we fail again.

 

[The Future's Blue]

What a ridiculous statement.

Of course it's crucial, it's what gives us the additional revenue to make top drawer signings whilst complying with FFP.

Prove it, please.

I can't believe you just posted that.

Truly incredible.

Not incredible at all. Are you saying that the CL is essential to our model?

In fact, for anybody out there, including the wizards, is making the CL group stages essential for our current model?

 

[chesterguy]

And I said "grind out results at the highest level". The highest level is the Champions League.

My opinion on Mancini is based on every facet of his management and tenure over three years. Only a fool judges a manager on one match, or even one competition.

Oops

So the only stick that people are beating Mancini is due to his failure in the champions league his domestic results in the past 2 years is equal to or better than Dortmund, United RM. So the only facet in which he has "failed" is CL but according to DD only a fool would judge someone in this manner... I am confused!!!

I still see many are still beating Mancini with the CL "failure" stick when even the most ardent Mancini outer has admitted that only a fool would judge him on one competition so I am still confused??

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

What a ridiculous statement.

Of course it's crucial, it's what gives us the additional revenue to make top drawer signings whilst complying with FFP.

Prove it, please.

I can't believe you just posted that.

Truly incredible.

Incredible is an understatement, Dave.

 

[BobKowalski]

Prove it, please.

I can't believe you just posted that.

Truly incredible.

Not incredible at all. Are you saying that the CL is essential to our model?

In fact, for anybody out there, including the wizards, is making the CL group stages essential for our current model?

Qualification for the CL is important to the club. Failure to qualify would have the manager out the door toot sweet

Most of the concern on here is about revenue and attracting players because you have CL football although we did attract players here without CL football.

No one seems to worry about winning the damn thing just doing okay and making sure we get far enough to make a decent buck. Arsenal have zero ambition to win the CL but their season is focussed entirely on qualification for a tournament they have little to no expectation of winning.

Which is an odd attitude to have and whenever they talk about Wengers excellent record in the CL - qualified 15 years on the bounce yada yada - no one ever mentions he has never actually won the bloody thing. As I said odd.

For me if you don't actually win the competition it makes little to no difference whether you go out the group stages or get knocked out later. For the club its a bit difference in terms of revenue but that ain't my problem.

 

[The Future's Blue]

Prove it, please.

I can't believe you just posted that.

Truly incredible.

Incredible is an understatement, Dave.

Look above and please answer the question.

 

[Danamy]

Prove it, please.

I can't believe you just posted that.

Truly incredible.

Not incredible at all. Are you saying that the CL is essential to our model?

In fact, for anybody out there, including the wizards, is making the CL group stages essential for our current model?

I'm sure the owners will be happy to keep spunking £100 mill every season for us to not even compete in Europe?

That's like buying a Ferrari and driving around in second gear all the time?