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JoeMercer'sWay said:Damocles said:JoeMercer'sWay said:I could argue the same about off-topic and that thread you had with Billy up here.
I'm far less worried about Blues with constructive criticism(some isn't I admit) and some blues panicking having never experienced this before than the nonsense going on downstairs.
I have yet to read anything that can be remotely labelled as constructive criticism and would like somebody to point this out.
I think pointing out where we've gone wrong, and saying how we should be playing ie. the tempo, movement etc. and pointing out that Mancini needs to do more to motivate the players and force to play at a higher tempo and work harder and earn his wage with some world class man management is pretty constructive.
I also think pointing out how wasteful we've been in front of goal and suggesting we need a new striker coach would also be constructive...
I also think there's been some interesting debate, stats and points of view going on that's far more than just slagging Roberto and the team off, though of course, some of that has been going on, but as many threads downstairs are turning into a farce with as many culprits, some very familiar, as are up here.
Damocles said:JoeMercer'sWay said:Damocles said:I have yet to read anything that can be remotely labelled as constructive criticism and would like somebody to point this out.
I think pointing out where we've gone wrong, and saying how we should be playing ie. the tempo, movement etc. and pointing out that Mancini needs to do more to motivate the players and force to play at a higher tempo and work harder and earn his wage with some world class man management is pretty constructive.
I also think pointing out how wasteful we've been in front of goal and suggesting we need a new striker coach would also be constructive...
I also think there's been some interesting debate, stats and points of view going on that's far more than just slagging Roberto and the team off, though of course, some of that has been going on, but as many threads downstairs are turning into a farce with as many culprits, some very familiar, as are up here.
None of this is constructive as it presumes that these things arent happening and that we would be more successful if they did. It also presumes to know the level of motivation of the players, presumes that a league record goal haul is inadequate, presumes to understand the level of coaching of the players, etc.
Once you can prove them conclusively, then you xan go on to make constructive criticism of them. Until then its opinion based entirely on uninformed hesarsay and guessing.
Any other candidate for constructive criticism?
Damocles said:JoeMercer'sWay said:Damocles said:I have yet to read anything that can be remotely labelled as constructive criticism and would like somebody to point this out.
I think pointing out where we've gone wrong, and saying how we should be playing ie. the tempo, movement etc. and pointing out that Mancini needs to do more to motivate the players and force to play at a higher tempo and work harder and earn his wage with some world class man management is pretty constructive.
I also think pointing out how wasteful we've been in front of goal and suggesting we need a new striker coach would also be constructive...
I also think there's been some interesting debate, stats and points of view going on that's far more than just slagging Roberto and the team off, though of course, some of that has been going on, but as many threads downstairs are turning into a farce with as many culprits, some very familiar, as are up here.
None of this is constructive as it presumes that these things arent happening and that we would be more successful if they did. It also presumes to know the level of motivation of the players, presumes that a league record goal haul is inadequate, presumes to understand the level of coaching of the players, etc.
Once you can prove them conclusively, then you xan go on to make constructive criticism of them. Until then its opinion based entirely on uninformed hesarsay and guessing.
Any other candidate for constructive criticism?
No17 said:Damocles said:JoeMercer'sWay said:I think pointing out where we've gone wrong, and saying how we should be playing ie. the tempo, movement etc. and pointing out that Mancini needs to do more to motivate the players and force to play at a higher tempo and work harder and earn his wage with some world class man management is pretty constructive.
I also think pointing out how wasteful we've been in front of goal and suggesting we need a new striker coach would also be constructive...
I also think there's been some interesting debate, stats and points of view going on that's far more than just slagging Roberto and the team off, though of course, some of that has been going on, but as many threads downstairs are turning into a farce with as many culprits, some very familiar, as are up here.
None of this is constructive as it presumes that these things arent happening and that we would be more successful if they did. It also presumes to know the level of motivation of the players, presumes that a league record goal haul is inadequate, presumes to understand the level of coaching of the players, etc.
Once you can prove them conclusively, then you xan go on to make constructive criticism of them. Until then its opinion based entirely on uninformed hesarsay and guessing.
Any other candidate for constructive criticism?
when it comes to motivation it is a hear say but would you agree that watching the matches is not enough of an evidence for saying that city play too narrow and slow in build up and that mostly he has no plan B? I think it's something everyone will agree on.
gordondaviesmoustache said:It's been said before a thousand times but it doesn't make it any less true:
Remember where we've come from and realise where we're going.
In the scheme of those two factors whether we finish first or second this season is small fry.
Am I desperate to win it this year? Yes, but if we don't we'll be back next season. When are people going to get their heads around the owners that we have will ensure success eventually?
I had a girlfriend once who after a few months of me getting us into most nightclubs on the guest list moaned like fuck because we had to queue to get in somewhere one Saturday night. I pointed out to her that the year before she didn't even know what a guest list was. Some posters on here remind me of her.
Apart from the perfect tits.
Damocles said:No17 said:Damocles said:None of this is constructive as it presumes that these things arent happening and that we would be more successful if they did. It also presumes to know the level of motivation of the players, presumes that a league record goal haul is inadequate, presumes to understand the level of coaching of the players, etc.
Once you can prove them conclusively, then you xan go on to make constructive criticism of them. Until then its opinion based entirely on uninformed hesarsay and guessing.
Any other candidate for constructive criticism?
when it comes to motivation it is a hear say but would you agree that watching the matches is not enough of an evidence for saying that city play too narrow and slow in build up and that mostly he has no plan B? I think it's something everyone will agree on.
No, that's nonsense.
We've played about five different ways this season. Have you watched us much?
Damocles said:No17 said:Damocles said:None of this is constructive as it presumes that these things arent happening and that we would be more successful if they did. It also presumes to know the level of motivation of the players, presumes that a league record goal haul is inadequate, presumes to understand the level of coaching of the players, etc.
Once you can prove them conclusively, then you xan go on to make constructive criticism of them. Until then its opinion based entirely on uninformed hesarsay and guessing.
Any other candidate for constructive criticism?
when it comes to motivation it is a hear say but would you agree that watching the matches is not enough of an evidence for saying that city play too narrow and slow in build up and that mostly he has no plan B? I think it's something everyone will agree on.
No, that's nonsense.
We've played about five different ways this season. Have you watched us much?