Wolves (A) | Post Match Thread

What decisions went against you? Certainly not the two penalty shouts that the TV replays proved the ref made the right decision on both
Did they? I thought the Zinchenko one was a stonewall penalty as he clearly fouled him first and then played the ball.

The decision not to book Zinchenko was laughable when he tripped Chiquinho for a free-kick just outside the box in the second half.

You could have also had a few more bookings for cynical fouls, such as Gundogan. Also funny when in front of the away end Cancelo just booted the ball away and wasn't booked.

Please don't get it twisted, I'm not being bitter here or even suggesting the outcome would've been different, you were excellent, just my opinion on the decisions, although I may still be bitter about that ridiculous handball call at the Etihad haha!
 
Did they? I thought the Zinchenko one was a stonewall penalty as he clearly fouled him first and then played the ball.

The decision not to book Zinchenko was laughable when he tripped Chiquinho for a free-kick just outside the box in the second half.

You could have also had a few more bookings for cynical fouls, such as Gundogan. Also funny when in front of the away end Cancelo just booted the ball away and wasn't booked.

Please don't get it twisted, I'm not being bitter here or even suggesting the outcome would've been different, you were excellent, just my opinion on the decisions, although I may still be bitter about that ridiculous handball call at the Etihad haha!
I think the ref was very kind to us . Normally those decisions go against us.
 
Did they? I thought the Zinchenko one was a stonewall penalty as he clearly fouled him first and then played the ball.

The decision not to book Zinchenko was laughable when he tripped Chiquinho for a free-kick just outside the box in the second half.

You could have also had a few more bookings for cynical fouls, such as Gundogan. Also funny when in front of the away end Cancelo just booted the ball away and wasn't booked.

Please don't get it twisted, I'm not being bitter here or even suggesting the outcome would've been different, you were excellent, just my opinion on the decisions, although I may still be bitter about that ridiculous handball call at the Etihad haha!

Did you not think there were any cynical fouls committed by your players?

As for the ‘where were you when you were shit?’ song, we got bigger crowds in League One than you got in divisions above us, and you never once had a bigger average than we got during that time in our history.
 
Did you not think there were any cynical fouls committed by your players?

As for the ‘where were you when you were shit?’ song, we got bigger crowds in League One than you got in divisions above us, and you never once had a bigger average than we got during that time in our history.
No as we couldn't get near enough to foul you haha! I really wish there were, we committed about four fouls all game I think, embarrassing from us.

Are you really moaning about a song ffs? We do it to wind you up, and it looks like it works. Just like we'll probably sing sign on to the scousers, Leeds are falling apart, etc.
And we don't actually believe everything we sing - such as we don't actually think we're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen :D
 
Did they? I thought the Zinchenko one was a stonewall penalty as he clearly fouled him first and then played the ball.

The decision not to book Zinchenko was laughable when he tripped Chiquinho for a free-kick just outside the box in the second half.

You could have also had a few more bookings for cynical fouls, such as Gundogan. Also funny when in front of the away end Cancelo just booted the ball away and wasn't booked.

Please don't get it twisted, I'm not being bitter here or even suggesting the outcome would've been different, you were excellent, just my opinion on the decisions, although I may still be bitter about that ridiculous handball call at the Etihad haha!

Stonewall pen… no chance.
Without doubt I believe the decisions go to the bigger teams.

Just using you as the example.

The penalty decision at Goodison Park was a joke. The penalty decision against us for handball was a joke. Like inexplicably bad calls.

Sticking with that. Another inexplicably bad call was the decision not to send Milner off at Anfield and I'm sure there's more for you at Anfield.

I remember reading Vieira talk about there being levels to it (in his playing days). He felt Arsenal got the benefit against a lot in the league but whenever they played United they were the ones to suffer.

I feel it's similar here. You are probably the Arsenal in this situation! You get the decisions against the likes of us/Everton but still are not at Liverpool's level!

Our fans generally hate VAR, I'm not so much against it. I look back at some of the decisions that were given to bigger teams in the day and whilst I still believe they're favoured now, usually most disgraceful calls can't happen. You can't ever get stitched up properly with offsides now for example, which I like.

Fair comment although I do recall a blatant handball goal for Wolves against us a few years ago.Think it was Willy Boly. That decision definitely went your way that day.
 
Stonewall pen… no chance.


Fair comment although I do recall a blatant handball goal for Wolves against us a few years ago.Think it was Willy Boly. That decision definitely went your way that day.
Looked a pretty clear foul to me.

And yep, we benefited massively that day.
 
Did they? I thought the Zinchenko one was a stonewall penalty as he clearly fouled him first and then played the ball.

The decision not to book Zinchenko was laughable when he tripped Chiquinho for a free-kick just outside the box in the second half.

You could have also had a few more bookings for cynical fouls, such as Gundogan. Also funny when in front of the away end Cancelo just booted the ball away and wasn't booked.

Please don't get it twisted, I'm not being bitter here or even suggesting the outcome would've been different, you were excellent, just my opinion on the decisions, although I may still be bitter about that ridiculous handball call at the Etihad haha!
Bolly and his handball you mean
 
Well this has to have deflated the fuck out of the "mentality monsters"...:)
This was the game I thought would break them.
they huffed and puffed past Villa. It’s becoming a toil.

a Chelsea defeat will have a profound affect on their winning mentality.
 
Did they? I thought the Zinchenko one was a stonewall penalty as he clearly fouled him first and then played the ball.

The decision not to book Zinchenko was laughable when he tripped Chiquinho for a free-kick just outside the box in the second half.

You could have also had a few more bookings for cynical fouls, such as Gundogan. Also funny when in front of the away end Cancelo just booted the ball away and wasn't booked.

Please don't get it twisted, I'm not being bitter here or even suggesting the outcome would've been different, you were excellent, just my opinion on the decisions, although I may still be bitter about that ridiculous handball call at the Etihad haha!
There was a bit of grappling then your guy threw himself, Salahesq to the floor. We had 80 percent of the ball yet strangely you think we should have ended up with more bookings than you lot?
 
Looked a pretty clear foul to me.

And yep, we benefited massively that day.
Watch it back, your player initiated contact by grabbing/pulling Zin, who returned the favour, all fair….Zin went to ground pre-empting a cross the same time your guy decided he’d had some contact back & went to ground, Zin then hooked the ball for a corner. There was about the same contact as the one on Sterling which wasn’t a pen
 
Did they? I thought the Zinchenko one was a stonewall penalty as he clearly fouled him first and then played the ball.

The decision not to book Zinchenko was laughable when he tripped Chiquinho for a free-kick just outside the box in the second half.

You could have also had a few more bookings for cynical fouls, such as Gundogan. Also funny when in front of the away end Cancelo just booted the ball away and wasn't booked.

Please don't get it twisted, I'm not being bitter here or even suggesting the outcome would've been different, you were excellent, just my opinion on the decisions, although I may still be bitter about that ridiculous handball call at the Etihad haha!
Was you as bothered about the non penalties we didn’t get at the etihad? The one given I agree shouldn’t have, could have had 2 more quite comfortably.

none of last nights shouts were pens. I think most neutrals would agree; like they have done. We got kicked about too last night, it was far from a one sided refereeing display however every football fan thinks every ref was all for the other team. Overall we was just far too good on the night and opened up a normal good defensive unit. If you think things went against you last night, just wait until you to Anfield
 
There was a bit of grappling then your guy threw himself, Salahesq to the floor. We had 80 percent of the ball yet strangely you think we should have ended up with more bookings than you lot?

Watch that from 6:45 and pause at 7:04. He has his arms wrapped around him, the left knee of Zinchenko hits the left knee and it's quite clearly a foul. I'm not always one for reactions either but the way Zinchenko reacts suggests he knows he's done something wrong.

Possession is also pretty irrelevant to bookings. I've also absolutely zero complaints with your cynical fouls, it's part of football and it needs to be done. But, it also needs to be reffed properly. Just like Casemiro got away with two ridiculous cynical fouls last week, you did last night.
 
That game felt like Pep has decided that the best form of defence is attack. Boring boring city.
We don’t need to manage our energy levels anymore.
which is bad news for our opponents.

We will be relentless. Villa will get ripped to shreds
 
Was you as bothered about the non penalties we didn’t get at the etihad? The one given I agree shouldn’t have, could have had 2 more quite comfortably.

none of last nights shouts were pens. I think most neutrals would agree; like they have done. We got kicked about too last night, it was far from a one sided refereeing display however every football fan thinks every ref was all for the other team. Overall we was just far too good on the night and opened up a normal good defensive unit. If you think things went against you last night, just wait until you to Anfield
I don't think that's the case at the Etihad. I remember you moaning about one penalty for a handball by Kilman that actually couldn't have been one because it was the 't-shirt line', yet you thought it was.

You certainly didn't get kicked about last night, as I said, I really wish you did. We couldn't get near you because you were too good, I'm not disputing that. I don't understand why many on here seem so defensive about the idea that you may get decisions in your favour. It's as though you relish the idea that you're still the massive underdog in this situation when you're not.
 

Watch that from 6:45 and pause at 7:04. He has his arms wrapped around him, the left knee of Zinchenko hits the left knee and it's quite clearly a foul. I'm not always one for reactions either but the way Zinchenko reacts suggests he knows he's done something wrong.

Possession is also pretty irrelevant to bookings. I've also absolutely zero complaints with your cynical fouls, it's part of football and it needs to be done. But, it also needs to be reffed properly. Just like Casemiro got away with two ridiculous cynical fouls last week, you did last night.
Look I understand it, if we takeaway your grievances regarding decisions you think went against you then you've got nothing left. I've watched it many times and although I was worried about both penalty shouts in real time the replays clearly show they weren't.
Went to Wolves away the first two times we played there after you came up. Your support is pretty loud but extremely thick. I imagine you got caught up in the moment last night, we've all done it and think you were hard done to. You weren't so get over it.
 

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