Josh Blue
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Malty said:Can anyone clarify this for me
is this going to effect the genuinely disabled people or the ones playing the system playing on depression and all that?
Playing on depression and all that? Expand..
Malty said:Can anyone clarify this for me
is this going to effect the genuinely disabled people or the ones playing the system playing on depression and all that?
buzzer1 said:Ifwecouldjust....... said:corky1970 said:lets be clear, this is aimed at people we know, the cycle of scumbags, the tracksuit wearing anti social, gap toothed fighters, the underclass, yet there are people who are genuinely out there who are just unemployable because they are ill educated but looking for work.
there are people out there who are well educated looking for work, however if after 2 years they haven't got a job i question their motivation(and aspirations)
its a big brush, with a lot of tar on.
a difficult dilemma.
But how is giving them menial tasks going to solve anything.? All that will happen is that we will end up having to police / supervise them (yet another cottage industry) We should be putting them on to training and apprenticeships maybe renovating all the run down and derelict properties that infest our inner cities (whoops have we solved two major problems at the same time?) thus creating housing for the homeless , single parents and allowing people to downsize thus releasing larger properties so that their housing benefit can be reduced without pain(oh maybe its three major problems).
...............the outcome would be a trained, employed population.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure there will be some that won't work but to Tar everyone with the same brush is wrong
Who would pay for the above?
Malty said:Can anyone clarify this for me
is this going to effect the genuinely disabled people or the ones playing the system playing on depression and all that?
Josh Blue said:Malty said:Can anyone clarify this for me
is this going to effect the genuinely disabled people or the ones playing the system playing on depression and all that?
Playing on depression and all that? Expand..
ban-mcfc said:Malty said:Can anyone clarify this for me
is this going to effect the genuinely disabled people or the ones playing the system playing on depression and all that?
dangerous game, whilst i'm all up for getting lazy scrotes working, there's a big risk genuinely mentally ill people will be misdiagnosed.
i envisage thousands playing the depression card when/if this system comes in and the worst thing is, it will affect the genuine people.
it's a great idea in theory but they need to be careful with how they go about it.
TheMightyQuinn said:You'd get a similar punishment for mugging someone.
Just make sure you mug someone for more than your dole and your quids in.
ban-mcfc said:TheMightyQuinn said:You'd get a similar punishment for mugging someone.
Just make sure you mug someone for more than your dole and your quids in.
you mean like benefit scroungers mugging working people by getting their taxes?
;)
i kne albert davy said:Can't really see getting litter picked up for Dole money being the way forward if I'm honest would it not be better to pay a bit more than the dole and offer training for the millions of jobs out there we're assured the British are to lazy to take.
TheMightyQuinn said:ban-mcfc said:TheMightyQuinn said:You'd get a similar punishment for mugging someone.
Just make sure you mug someone for more than your dole and your quids in.
you mean like benefit scroungers mugging working people by getting their taxes?
;)
Don't get me wrong.
I don't like scroungers but they likely account for a small amount of those claiming benefits.
Indeed I'd wager that there's a higher percentage of convicted criminals in the tory party than there are those cheating the system.
Initiatives like this only ever fuck over the most needy, those who play the system will continue to do so.