Writing is on the wall

[green pennies]

I can see 'arry lined up for june

^The switch from using no wingers to using 5 at a time would satisfy some round these parts...

 

[the goats backside]

I can see 'arry lined up for june

^The switch from using no wingers to using 5 at a time would satisfy some round these parts...

And just in case they are under performing we could have 5 more on the bench

 

[Anonymous]

Contracts are put into place as much for if things go wrong as they for if things go right. IMO it's quite naive to assume that a contract extension comes without clearly defined objectives and clearly defined penalties for not meeting those objectives. Of course none of us know the ins and outs of what is in Mancini's contract . In the summer just gone City refused to sell Mario. By October things had changed and we'd agreed to sell him. Even though he had barely fulfilled two years of a four year contract.

I'm surprised we didn't move for someone this window as Mario's sale, contrary to what Mancini keeps saying, has been on the cards for months. Coupled with our inactivity or relative inactivity last summer, again it's not crazy logic to think that there are trust issues with respect to identifying and facilitating transfers, and that Txiki and Ferran are more interested in the long term needs of the squad rather than Mancini's short term needs.

What it all means for Mancini ? Who knows ... the club won't sack him unless they have a better option available to them. Guardiola was the best 'better option' and he's no longer available so it could well mean another season with the status quo remaining intact.

 

[peoffrey]

Mate of mine had dinner with Bobby a couple of weeks ago (corporate), said Bobby was an amazing guy and whilst he didn't say anything explicit Bobby gave the impression he didn't think he would be there next season.

He did that before when he lined himself up with a French job. Was it Monaco? I'd personally prefer it if our Manager was secure in his position as it means things will be better throughout.

Sheikh Mansour will get the final say and he oversaw Mancini's appointment. Not winning the Premiership this season isn't the be all and end all. Only one Club can win it. The poor business in the last two transfer windows haven't helped matters...

It can't be right that a manager wins the league and still doesn't feel secure in his position, it can't do any good for the long term planning if the manager doesn't think he will be there the next season. Let's be honest if it wasn't for Fergiescum we would piss the league this year, instead because of him we will probably sack our manager.

I'm presuming Mancini spoke to Monaco because he feared the sack should he not win the Premiership with City. Personally I'd have preferred it had he continued with the job in hand and not allowed his head to be turned by another Club.

 

[SaddleworthBlueRhino]

I can see 'arry lined up for june

^The switch from using no wingers to using 5 at a time would satisfy some round these parts...

Bring back Waggy, Barnes, Summerbee, White and Petrov for me then. All worth a bung from arry! And about his limits as well.

 

[peoffrey]

Europe and Balotelli are the major problems with Mancini, IMHO. We had an abysmal Champions League campaign where we didn't look like winning any match and then weren't good enough to even drop down to the Europa League. Also, Balotelli was doing nothing on the pitch and too much off it yet Mancini defended him to the end. He's now left.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Contracts are put into place as much for if things go wrong as they for if things go right. IMO it's quite naive to assume that a contract extension comes without clearly defined objectives and clearly defined penalties for not meeting those objectives. Of course none of us know the ins and outs of what is in Mancini's contract . In the summer just gone City refused to sell Mario. By October things had changed and we'd agreed to sell him. Even though he had barely fulfilled two years of a four year contract.

I'm surprised we didn't move for someone this window as Mario's sale, contrary to what Mancini keeps saying, has been on the cards for months. Coupled with our inactivity or relative inactivity last summer, again it's not crazy logic to think that there are trust issues with respect to identifying and facilitating transfers, and that Txiki and Ferran are more interested in the long term needs of the squad rather than Mancini's short term needs.

What it all means for Mancini ? Who knows ... the club won't sack him unless they have a better option available to them. Guardiola was the best 'better option' and he's no longer available so it could well mean another season with the status quo remaining intact.

I don't know why you insist Pep is the best/better option? We might as well say that about Vilanova. Or anyone who has the Messi trio playing for them.

But - I'm coming to the conlusion that the writing is unfortunately on the wall. This academy fixation is all well and good - but leagues throughout Europe are littered with shiny sparkly academies - not many produce world class players. For me the fixation and seemingly sole fixation is premature - just as we are establishing ourselves as a global brand we shut up shop and sell 3 very good squad players and replace tham with average ones. I hope the sense of deflation I'm feeling is misplaced and I hope the squad who have seen popular strong personalites leave aren't deflated too.

 

[Anonymous]

But - I'm coming to the conlusion that the writing is unfortunately on the wall. This academy fixation is all well and good - but leagues throughout Europe are littered with shiny sparkly academies - not many produce world class players. For me the fixation and seemingly sole fixation is premature - just as we are establishing ourselves as a global brand we shut up shop and sell 3 very good squad players and replace tham with average ones. I hope the sense of deflation I'm feeling is misplaced and I hope the squad who have seen popular strong personalites leave aren't deflated too.

Selling Mario will have a positive effect upon the rest of the squad and particularly upon our remaining forwards.

I don't think there's a fixation with the academy, just a fixation with having a long term view to transfer policy. Last summer Mancini wanted RVP and De Rossi - neither transfer was realistic based on our spending in the previous three years and sheer number of players on insane wages we already had in our squad. It was remiss of Mancini to not see the bigger picture at that point and get himself into a public shit fight with Marwood instead.

 

[Mental_blue]

Contracts are put into place as much for if things go wrong as they for if things go right. IMO it's quite naive to assume that a contract extension comes without clearly defined objectives and clearly defined penalties for not meeting those objectives. Of course none of us know the ins and outs of what is in Mancini's contract . In the summer just gone City refused to sell Mario. By October things had changed and we'd agreed to sell him. Even though he had barely fulfilled two years of a four year contract.

I'm surprised we didn't move for someone this window as Mario's sale, contrary to what Mancini keeps saying, has been on the cards for months. Coupled with our inactivity or relative inactivity last summer, again it's not crazy logic to think that there are trust issues with respect to identifying and facilitating transfers, and that Txiki and Ferran are more interested in the long term needs of the squad rather than Mancini's short term needs.

What it all means for Mancini ? Who knows ... the club won't sack him unless they have a better option available to them. Guardiola was the best 'better option' and he's no longer available so it could well mean another season with the status quo remaining intact.

Take out the "Guardiola was the best 'better option' and he's no longer available" and I think this the probably the most sensible post of yours I've seen on here. I hope you are not mellowing!!

 

[OB1]

Contracts are put into place as much for if things go wrong as they for if things go right. IMO it's quite naive to assume that a contract extension comes without clearly defined objectives and clearly defined penalties for not meeting those objectives. Of course none of us know the ins and outs of what is in Mancini's contract . In the summer just gone City refused to sell Mario. By October things had changed and we'd agreed to sell him. Even though he had barely fulfilled two years of a four year contract.

I'm surprised we didn't move for someone this window as Mario's sale, contrary to what Mancini keeps saying, has been on the cards for months. Coupled with our inactivity or relative inactivity last summer, again it's not crazy logic to think that there are trust issues with respect to identifying and facilitating transfers, and that Txiki and Ferran are more interested in the long term needs of the squad rather than Mancini's short term needs.

What it all means for Mancini ? Who knows ... the club won't sack him unless they have a better option available to them. Guardiola was the best 'better option' and he's no longer available so it could well mean another season with the status quo remaining intact.

I don't know why you insist Pep is the best/better option? We might as well say that about Vilanova. Or anyone who has the Messi trio playing for them.

But - I'm coming to the conlusion that the writing is unfortunately on the wall. This academy fixation is all well and good - but leagues throughout Europe are littered with shiny sparkly academies - not many produce world class players. For me the fixation and seemingly sole fixation is premature - just as we are establishing ourselves as a global brand we shut up shop and sell 3 very good squad players and replace tham with average ones. I hope the sense of deflation I'm feeling is misplaced and I hope the squad who have seen popular strong personalites leave aren't deflated too.

I'm personally bored with trying to explain to people why Pep could have been a great option for City and why his success at Barca cannot just be attributed to Messi & Co. I can see why people would have a different opinion but I do think a lot of those opinions arise from people being uninformed (not saying that applies here). Anyway Pep is not coming to City so we will all get the chance to see how he does at Bayern.

I think it would be dangerous to read much into what City have (not) done in the last window but they could be playing a wait and see game. At this moment, I'd say the odds are slightly in favour of Bobby being in charge next season but the odds will fluctuate as the remainder of the season unfolds.