Yaya Toure

schfc6 said:
Are people still spouting the same shite about Ya Ya defensively? Stop watching MOTD for Christ's sake.

It's pretty easy to say Ya Ya is poor defensively. Especially if you are clueless about the game. It's basic very basic, Ya Ya and Fernandinho are 9 out of 10 times are playing two on three. So if you understand the game, it's pretty logical that other teams will have someone free.

I have asked this of people before, if Ya Ya is so poor defensively, if he and Fernandinho are weak defensively, then why is it so many teams play 3 in central midfield against us?

Not one team on the planet would line up 442 against us. Why is this? Surely if Ya Ya and Fernandinho are so weak defensively teams would just over run us. Facts are, Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle, Everton are all very good sides, they have been hammered by City, they all tried to over run our two man midfield.. Chelsea will come Monday, they'll play Matic, Ramieres and most likely Mikel, and fingers crossed, we will again win the game.

The key to our attacking brilliance is our midfield two, they allow us to have 4 forwards all with freedom to attack, not only do Fernandinho and Ya Ya provide and strong axis on which to attack, but they have 15 prem goals between them.

So our midfield anchors have scored more than, Ramieres & Mikel, Gerrard & Lucas, Cabaye & Sissokho, Barry and McCarthy, Flamini & Arteta and Carrick & Zinedine Cleverley combined.

So our midfield two give us the axis to score an average of three goals a game. Yet we have only conceded 6 more than Chelsea, who are built on defence.

To have the attacking play we have, you sacrifice defensive solidity, take a striker out, replace with a destroyer, a De Jong type, we'd concede considerably less, Ya Ya would look even better.

We don't play with the protection that Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal do, that's why we've conceded a few more goals, but score so many more.

Ya Ya is basically two players for us, he runs the midfield, he creates goals he scores goals. He passes and runs the game like Xavi, he runs at teams like Gerrard in his peak, he is as creative Scholes and scores like Lampard in his pomp. Yet people want him to tackle like De Jong. He's only one man.

Toure has 12 Premier League goals, 4 direct assists, most passes completed. I can also think of at least 10 goals where Ya Ya has been integral without being given an assist. How many times is he the pass before the assist. How many time does he pick out Zaba, Kolarove, Nasri, Silva or Navas in the box who I turn create a tap in?

Take Cardiff, he put Aguero clean through for one goal, sent Dzeko through resulting in Navas' goal, and then scored himself.

Others players just can't do what Ya Ya can, yes every now and he may look lazy, but he and Fernandinho are doing the work of 3 men.

He also has one major quality that you can't buy. Fear factor. Teams are scared to death of him..


Fantastic assessment.
 
Uber Blue said:
schfc6 said:
Are people still spouting the same shite about Ya Ya defensively? Stop watching MOTD for Christ's sake.

It's pretty easy to say Ya Ya is poor defensively. Especially if you are clueless about the game. It's basic very basic, Ya Ya and Fernandinho are 9 out of 10 times are playing two on three. So if you understand the game, it's pretty logical that other teams will have someone free.

I have asked this of people before, if Ya Ya is so poor defensively, if he and Fernandinho are weak defensively, then why is it so many teams play 3 in central midfield against us?

Not one team on the planet would line up 442 against us. Why is this? Surely if Ya Ya and Fernandinho are so weak defensively teams would just over run us. Facts are, Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle, Everton are all very good sides, they have been hammered by City, they all tried to over run our two man midfield.. Chelsea will come Monday, they'll play Matic, Ramieres and most likely Mikel, and fingers crossed, we will again win the game.

The key to our attacking brilliance is our midfield two, they allow us to have 4 forwards all with freedom to attack, not only do Fernandinho and Ya Ya provide and strong axis on which to attack, but they have 15 prem goals between them.

So our midfield anchors have scored more than, Ramieres & Mikel, Gerrard & Lucas, Cabaye & Sissokho, Barry and McCarthy, Flamini & Arteta and Carrick & Zinedine Cleverley combined.

So our midfield two give us the axis to score an average of three goals a game. Yet we have only conceded 6 more than Chelsea, who are built on defence.

To have the attacking play we have, you sacrifice defensive solidity, take a striker out, replace with a destroyer, a De Jong type, we'd concede considerably less, Ya Ya would look even better.

We don't play with the protection that Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal do, that's why we've conceded a few more goals, but score so many more.

Ya Ya is basically two players for us, he runs the midfield, he creates goals he scores goals. He passes and runs the game like Xavi, he runs at teams like Gerrard in his peak, he is as creative Scholes and scores like Lampard in his pomp. Yet people want him to tackle like De Jong. He's only one man.

Toure has 12 Premier League goals, 4 direct assists, most passes completed. I can also think of at least 10 goals where Ya Ya has been integral without being given an assist. How many times is he the pass before the assist. How many time does he pick out Zaba, Kolarove, Nasri, Silva or Navas in the box who I turn create a tap in?

Take Cardiff, he put Aguero clean through for one goal, sent Dzeko through resulting in Navas' goal, and then scored himself.

Others players just can't do what Ya Ya can, yes every now and he may look lazy, but he and Fernandinho are doing the work of 3 men.

He also has one major quality that you can't buy. Fear factor. Teams are scared to death of him..


Brilliant. Thats what my main argument is for us, its always 2 v 3 in midfield because teams are shit scared of Yaya Toure.
 
schfc6 said:
Are people still spouting the same shite about Ya Ya defensively? Stop watching MOTD for Christ's sake.

It's pretty easy to say Ya Ya is poor defensively. Especially if you are clueless about the game. It's basic very basic, Ya Ya and Fernandinho 9 out of 10 times are playing two on three. So if you understand the game, it's pretty logical that other teams will have someone free.

I have asked this of people before, if Ya Ya is so poor defensively, if he and Fernandinho are weak defensively, then why is it so many teams play 3 in central midfield against us?

Not one team on the planet would line up 442 against us. Why is this? Surely if Ya Ya and Fernandinho are so weak defensively teams would just over run us. Facts are, Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle, Everton are all very good sides, they have been hammered by City, they all tried to over run our two man midfield.. Chelsea will come Monday, they'll play Matic, Ramieres and most likely Mikel, and fingers crossed, we will again win the game.

The key to our attacking brilliance is our midfield two, they allow us to have 4 forwards all with freedom to attack, not only do Fernandinho and Ya Ya provide and strong axis on which to attack, but they have 15 prem goals between them.

So our midfield anchors have scored more than, Ramieres & Mikel, Gerrard & Lucas, Cabaye & Sissokho, Barry and McCarthy, Flamini & Arteta and Carrick & Zinedine Cleverley combined.

So our midfield two give us the axis to score an average of three goals a game. Yet we have only conceded 6 more than Chelsea, who are built on defence.

To have the attacking play we have, you sacrifice defensive solidity, take a striker out, replace with a destroyer, a De Jong type, we'd concede considerably less, Ya Ya would look even better.

We don't play with the protection that Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal do, that's why we've conceded a few more goals, but score so many more.

Ya Ya is basically two players for us, he runs the midfield, he creates goals he scores goals. He passes and runs the game like Xavi, he runs at teams like Gerrard in his peak, he is as creative Scholes and scores like Lampard in his pomp. Yet people want him to tackle like De Jong. He's only one man.

Toure has 12 Premier League goals, 4 direct assists, most passes completed. I can also think of at least 10 goals where Ya Ya has been integral without being given an assist. How many times is he the pass before the assist.? How many times does he pick out Zaba, Kolarov, Nasri, Silva or Navas in the box who I turn create a tap in?

Take Cardiff, he put Aguero clean through for one goal, sent Dzeko through resulting in Navas' goal, and then scored himself. Yet people were still groaning about him.

Others players just can't do what Ya Ya can, yes every now and he may look lazy, but he and Fernandinho are doing the work of 3 men.

He also has one major quality that you can't buy. Fear factor. Teams are scared to death of him..


Post of the season...

If we didnt have Yaya, we wouldnt be the same team..

Probabily the best player to ever wear a City shirt..
 
I actually thought he was excellent today tbh, a constant threat and a real handfull. Obviously he doesn't do a lot defensively, but we know that and plan accordingly. Today he was more just let down by Demichellis doing a second rate job covering for him.
 
Yep, unreal performance. He does what he does, it's Pellegrini's job to adapt if he feels we're going to be exposed because of Yaya's flaws.
 
In though he played well today but was fighting a losing battle V Chelsea's numbers in midfield.

I can't believes people slag him off , the lad behind me was doing it all fucking game, how I didn't lose my rag I don't know.
 
Come on peeps go back and look at Yaya's feeble attempt to block the shot for Chelsea's goal - are you honestly telling me you're happy with that?

We all know know Yaya has defensive weaknesses but IMO he was hung out to dry today by Pellers in a two man midfield with MDM. I'll give MDM his dues for effort and his passing was OK but the guys legs have gone clearly and to expect Yaya to play in a two man midfield with him against a top team like Chelsea was not fair :-/
 

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