Yemen School Bus Attack

Vic said:
More than you?
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Its not a competition. Public awareness is one of the key components in helping with conflicts. The only problem is when you try to let people know the conflicting stories you receive over what the Mainstream media is telling people you get labelled a nutcase.
It doesnt matter what links are put up, whether it be directly from the government website or a journalist on the ground within the country, people will always view things they want to.

I'm actually glad the question has been asked and im very happy to share it with the board. Dont ask me to name them though because i dont trust some on here with their warped views and opinions.

Anyway, back on topic.

Yemen, Does Anyone Care?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/25/us-bombs-yemen-children-humanitarian-disaster

Some positive news, it's thought that an Al Qaeda leader has been killed in the latest strikes.

And the Houthi's are firing back at the Saudi's. Not so positive as it will continue the Saudi's barbaric strategy and will surely cost more innocent lives.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/yemens-houthis-say-they-fired-two-missiles-saudi-arabia-229974061
 
Havent had time to research this. Currently swamped at work.

Anyone believe this could be a direct conflict of interest?
Our own PM profiteering or her husband profiteering from the sales of BAE systems arms as Capital Group is the major shareholder for BAE.


Stop The War!

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So it does look like Capital Group is the major shareholder in BAE systems. Although i cant find any direct proof that May is profiteering. Guessing i would have to delve onto the markets to have a look at share prices but it now looks like a direct conflict of interest and our PM has been compromised.

Complicity in the murder of children for your own profit? I am actually struggling to believe this.

Be interesting to see if BAE was involved in Syria and Libya conflicts too.

Edit. BAE Involved in Syria too.

If this has legs can we get a new thread please?
 
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Ricster said:
Havent had time to research this. Currently swamped at work.

Anyone believe this could be a direct conflict of interest?
Our own PM profiteering or her husband profiteering from the sales of BAE systems arms as Capital Group is the major shareholder for BAE.


Stop The War!

Edit.
So it does look like Capital Group is the major shareholder in BAE systems. Although i cant find any direct proof that May is profiteering. Guessing i would have to delve onto the markets to have a look at share prices but it now looks like a direct conflict of interest and our PM has been compromised.

Complicity in the murder of children for your own profit? I am actually struggling to believe this.

Be interesting to see if BAE was involved in Syria and Libya conflicts too.

Edit. BAE Involved in Syria too.

If this has legs can we get a new thread please?
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If you did research it properly rather than parroting rubbish from conspiracy theorists, you'd find that it is an independently managed American subsidiary of Capital Group that has a significant stake in BAE Systems, a subsidiary based in California that is nothing to do with Philip May. This stake is around 10% of BAE and it contributes about 0.5% to the overall assets of the subsidiary. May is a relationship manager with Capital Group in the UK.
The fact that a few million pounds worth of missiles have been used in Yemen has absolutely no bearing on the company's share price. The company has a turnover of 18 billion pounds so if an order was placed to replace the used missiles it would amount to an increase in sales of about 0.03%.
The suggestion that May is profiteering is laughable, as is the suggestion that the UK has a vested interest in the war continuing. From a UK point of view, an end to the war would reduce tensions between Saudi and Iran which would have a beneficial effect on the security of oil supplies from the gulf.
 
Ricster said:
Havent had time to research this. Currently swamped at work.

Anyone believe this could be a direct conflict of interest?

Our own PM profiteering or her husband profiteering from the sales of BAE systems arms as Capital Group is the major shareholder for BAE.

Stop The War!

Edit.

So it does look like Capital Group is the major shareholder in BAE systems. Although i cant find any direct proof that May is profiteering. Guessing i would have to delve onto the markets to have a look at share prices but it now looks like a direct conflict of interest and our PM has been compromised.

Complicity in the murder of children for your own profit? I am actually struggling to believe this.

Be interesting to see if BAE was involved in Syria and Libya conflicts too.

Edit. BAE Involved in Syria too.

If this has legs can we get a new thread please?
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BAE does not manufacture missiles so what benefit would it get from any war?

BAE sells weapons platforms yes but those platforms were sold before any war in Syria or Yemen began.

Would BAE selling Typhoons to the RAF (used in Afghanistan, Iraq etc) also amount to a war crime?

Does the Russian support for Assad or Assad himself chemical bombing his own people also amount to war crimes given they have killed thousands and thousands more innocent people in Syria?
 
west didsblue said:
If you did research it properly rather than parroting rubbish from conspiracy theorists, you'd find that it is an independently managed American subsidiary of Capital Group that has a significant stake in BAE Systems, a subsidiary based in California that is nothing to do with Philip May. This stake is around 10% of BAE and it contributes about 0.5% to the overall assets of the subsidiary. May is a relationship manager with Capital Group in the UK.
The fact that a few million pounds worth of missiles have been used in Yemen has absolutely no bearing on the company's share price. The company has a turnover of 18 billion pounds so if an order was placed to replace the used missiles it would amount to an increase in sales of about 0.03%.
The suggestion that May is profiteering is laughable, as is the suggestion that the UK has a vested interest in the war continuing. From a UK point of view, an end to the war would reduce tensions between Saudi and Iran which would have a beneficial effect on the security of oil supplies from the gulf.
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your argument around plausible deniability might stand if we didn't have troops out there training the Saudis on using the missile systems etc that we have sold them. (Why we use British troops to train foreign forces how to use weapons sold to them by private companies like BAE and Lockheed Martin is worthy of a thread of its own)
 
inbetween said:
BAE does not manufacture missiles so what benefit would it get from any war?

BAE sells weapons platforms yes but those platforms were sold before any war in Syria or Yemen began.

Would BAE selling Typhoons to the RAF (used in Afghanistan, Iraq etc) also amount to a war crime?

Does the Russian support for Assad or Assad himself chemical bombing his own people also amount to war crimes given they have killed thousands and thousands more innocent people in Syria?
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Does the fact that the chemical weapons used by Assad bore the mark of a british manufacturer and Porton Down make you rethink your argument?


https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/g...-framed-syria-for-chemical-attacks-yet-again/
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Does the fact that the chemical weapons used by Assad bore the mark of a british manufacturer and Porton Down make you rethink your argument?

https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/g...-framed-syria-for-chemical-attacks-yet-again/
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Not really because even if that was true then we still must implicate everyone and not just hold the strange view that western arms are the only force for bad in the world. I never seem to see the same efforts to have a go at foreign arms firms or states, one of those states of course recently killed British citizens on British soil.

The aircraft and bombs the Syrian air force uses to bomb Syrian people are Russian, it is a fact. The aircraft and bombs the Russian air force uses to bomb the Syrian people are also Russian, another fact.

Should the efforts really be concentrated on British involvement or the fact a foreign power in Russia is indiscriminately bombing the place into oblivion at the order of someone who has the objective of oppressing the people of Syria?

You hear the likes of Corbyn condemning British, US, Saudi involvement etc but when did he last criticize Putin or Assad? It is an argument no-one can win.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
your argument around plausible deniability might stand if we didn't have troops out there training the Saudis on using the missile systems etc that we have sold them. (Why we use British troops to train foreign forces how to use weapons sold to them by private companies like BAE and Lockheed Martin is worthy of a thread of its own)
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What argument about plausible deniability?
My post was simply pointing out it does not make any difference to the fortunes of BAE Systems whether there is a civil war in Yemen or not and that suggestions of the husband of the PM profiteering thanks to the war are just nonsense.
 
inbetween said:
BAE does not manufacture missiles so what benefit would it get from any war?

BAE sells weapons platforms yes but those platforms were sold before any war in Syria or Yemen began.

Would BAE selling Typhoons to the RAF (used in Afghanistan, Iraq etc) also amount to a war crime?

Does the Russian support for Assad or Assad himself chemical bombing his own people also amount to war crimes given they have killed thousands and thousands more innocent people in Syria?
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Its a direct conflict of interest.
Profiteered from the killing of children in Syria and the training that is being given to the Saudi's.
Our Prime Minister's husband is profiteering from 2 war's we are involved with that is killing innocent people.


Chemical attack on his own people? I'm sorry but when you add the full truth to that statement, then i will reply to it. I dont agree with Assaad either but thats a half trutj statement
 
Ricster said:
Its a direct conflict of interest.
Profiteered from the killing of children in Syria and the training that is being given to the Saudi's.
Our Prime Minister's husband is profiteering from 2 war's we are involved with that is killing innocent people.


Chemical attack on his own people? I'm sorry but when you add the full truth to that statement, then i will reply to it. I dont agree with Assaad either but thats a half trutj statement
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The full truth is that Assad carried out a chemical attack on his own people. If you don’t believe that then you’re a gullible fool.

Our Prime Minister’s husband has no connection to BAE Systems other than working for a company that owns a subsidiary that has shares in it, and BAE Systems has no connection to the killing of children in Syria. That would be your hero Assad.
 
west didsblue said:
The full truth is that Assad carried out a chemical attack on his own people. If you don’t believe that then you’re a gullible fool.

Our Prime Minister’s husband has no connection to BAE Systems other than working for a company that owns a subsidiary that has shares in it, and BAE Systems has no connection to the killing of children in Syria. That would be your hero Assad.
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I do know that but what was the reason?
Its a half truth.
Assad bombs his own people. Do you think he bombed anyone else.

I dont agree with what happened but i also dont agree with a. The way it was reported and b. The propoganda that both sides used after the attack....especially the Russians.
See Hassan Diab for that.

Im not denying its a crime, my main point is there is more behindit than jusy bombing your own people.

Some on this board would call it collateral damage had it been pro forces
 
https://evolvepolitics.com/theresa-...audi-massacre-of-40-school-children-in-yemen/

And Syria. The best part is the Yanks are at it too. Lockheed Martin supplying the Saudi's and Director Daniel Akerson, was Chief Exec of Carlyle Group who were involved in the Iraq and Afghan wars. Another board member of Carlyle group to profiteer from those wars was.............

The war criminal (Dubya Bush's) father George Bush Snr.

History repeats itself
 
Ricster said:
https://evolvepolitics.com/theresa-...audi-massacre-of-40-school-children-in-yemen/

And Syria. The best part is the Yanks are at it too. Lockheed Martin supplying the Saudi's and Director Daniel Akerson, was Chief Exec of Carlyle Group who were involved in the Iraq and Afghan wars. Another board member of Carlyle group to profiteer from those wars was.............

The war criminal (Dubya Bush's) father George Bush Snr.

History repeats itself
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On this basis, nearly everyone with an occupational pension in the UK is profiteering from the murder of children.
 
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